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Which should we fear more, a third party or an Only party?
Primordial Slack ^ | 1/29/2012 | Joan of Argghh!

Posted on 01/29/2012 7:00:20 PM PST by JoanVarga

I’m pretty sure we’re watching the progressive end-game unfold after its 100-year incremental march. Like Mexico’s “institutional revolution” we have instituted and indoctrinated our own offspring to lead us exactly to this point: One Party Government.

It may turn out differently, but I’ve seen the tipping point with Mitt Romney’s vicious and specious attacks on Newt being repeated by all the media/government players. No, they’re not just the usual suspects of the MSM any more. Now our “new media” allies have fought their way to some imagined significance and so they kowtow to the powerful. We are all Capt. Schettino now, I guess, and it’s every man for himself. Don’t judge me, man! It’s market driven media. Capitalism!

It’s different than when Ross Perot ran for president and handed the brass ring to Clinton on a silver platter. We all bemoaned the Third Party split that gave the election to a man without a clear majority. But I think now we have a de facto Only Party. It is comprised of those who will not allow money out of their circle of influence. The wet dream of the Progressives has been to set the have-nots against the haves under the guise of fairness. The dirty secret behind that dream is that the Proggies are panting for the opportunity to be the haves. And for you to be the have-not.

The RNC has told all of us we cannot have Newt (or Cain. Or Palin. Or West.) We have told the RNC they cannot have Mitt. The impasse has drawn a stark contrast that even a blind man can discern. It’s not about being Republican. It’s not about hanging together or separately. Really, when you’re already screwed what’s a few feet of rope and a short drop? That’s the mood out there, folks.

Commenter raven at Legal Insurrection eloquently speaks for me at this juncture:

This is no longer about quarrels between candidates or wounds being inflicted or “healing over time,” it’s about existential differences of political and national identity, and about generations of GOP betrayals which have brought us to this point and which will no longer be denied, ignored, forgotten or forgiven. “Critical mass” has arrived.

Romney is just a representation (if not him, someone else like him) — of power and a presumption to power whose purpose is only in the gaining and keeping of power. This “power” has allowed our collective ship to drift outside the currents of the Constitution, and it clutches the rudder with a death grip.

I don’t know what will happen in Florida, but what Romney has done in the past few months (truly the only “inevitable” thing about Romney was that he would do this) has set in motion something historic. Nothing will be the same. The GOP chose Romney and he’s their destiny.

There’s a simmering idea that we’re all quite happy to leave the GOP with their choice and commit our own last act as a free people by voting our conscience. To Hell with the scare-mongerers who used our worst fears against us, to bring us to heel at the jackboot of the elites.


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To: JoanVarga
we have instituted and indoctrinated our own offspring to lead us exactly to this point: One Party Government.

This is the sentence which stands out to me. This being the case, and it is, how can we not expect what's happening now, to only spread and intensify-that is having "two parties" of big government, and over time, of the left? Everything that ever made this country exceptional has been eroded through the indoctrination of each successive generation, bit by bit. We have a small niche in the media and hardly a toehold in academia. What else can be expected, and why would it not get worse in the near future? Christians are being more and more blatantly marginalised. I take comfort that this world is not my home.
41 posted on 01/29/2012 9:26:07 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: JoanVarga

Left, right, doesn’t matter anymore. They’re just two sides of the same coin, both being totally corrupted by power. The majority of Americans live sandwiched between the extremes of the left and the right, and have no real representation in government as a consequence.


42 posted on 01/29/2012 10:05:46 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Right on —we need a true second party—a Conservative one.
It should come out of the Tea Party—Our symbol The Bear, or the Rattle snake (Don’t Tread on Me!)
Platform: Simple Smaller Government, Lower Taxes, No more PC, no more Greenie hippies, Drill for our own oil, Dig our own Coal, Tariffs on foreign built cars—no to Unions and their corruptions and thugs. No to Roe Vs Wade. Close the border if it means each American has to go down their and for free for two weeks a year build a wall to rival China’s Great wall—and man it with soldiers too. The border with Mexico should be air tight.


43 posted on 01/29/2012 10:41:06 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: factoryrat

If I recall the Whiskey Rebellion had its own flag? Maybe someone should post it—that rebellion is nothing short of what this talk has become-—Once we rebelled over the tax on tea? If the founders could hear us now they would draw their swords and tell us to form our troops. We need a new—bolder Tea Party—and the Sons of Liberty too.


44 posted on 01/29/2012 10:48:06 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I think I love everything you said. Seriously.


45 posted on 01/29/2012 10:56:30 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Revolting cat!

Thanks for the 2nd comment. I am an old guy who has been familiar with Communism since WWII. They lie about who they are just as they lie about everything else. Marxists, progressives, liberals, whatever, they are still Communists. The other names are intended to soften them and give them some sort of credibility.

I mentioned the Fabians because they practiced stealth and deception and implemented their programs over a long period. Now, with this Obama regime, they are just trying to ram everything through as fast as they can while they are in power. No more slo-go but they still take umbrage at being called even socialists.

They won’t give up power easily. I expect to see uprisings and social upheaval which will give Obama the excuse to declare martial law and cancel the elections. Occupy Whatever is part of that.


46 posted on 01/29/2012 11:17:14 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Deagle
unless there is something of a revolution among the young.

What young? We killed off millions of them. The ones pouring in from around the world are products of a century of Marxism or worse, products of a barbaric religio-political system.

If we do have a revolution it will be with a sad heart that we are the ones to blame for the challenge we now face. Eternal vigilance is a lovely motto, but a hard life. I'm afraid we sat back and gave our children over to hirelings while we pursued "meaning" or some other lamentable cheat.

47 posted on 01/29/2012 11:48:10 PM PST by JoanVarga (We no longer have the luxury of ascribing to incompetence what is plainly evil.)
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To: mrsmel
I take comfort that this world is not my home.

It's a cold comfort at this moment. But I wonder if we'll be let off the hook so easily. And especially we women. While the men of our generation fought and died, or worked and died, we stayed home to be courted by the Left through silly movies, magazines and other media. We gave away much of our high calling as women and mothers and teachers of our young, to run after some vain attempt at "equality."

Within a few short years we flooded the employment market and reduced the value of our men's work until now; when we must all work just to live, all demand public education just to have the basics, and all demand that "somebody should do something" when our life's ill choices have brought us into the narrows of few choices.

I hope that there is a small portion of eternal redemption for having seen the error of our ways.

48 posted on 01/30/2012 12:02:15 AM PST by JoanVarga (We no longer have the luxury of ascribing to incompetence what is plainly evil.)
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To: eyedigress
No different than an old flame. Cut it off and watch the action. They will be all over you.

Heh. But not if they have all the power. And the Establicans' are making it pretty clear in bold caps that they don't need us. That belies a corruption so large and advanced that I fear for my vote. Our blood-bought suffrage is being undermined daily by corruption and cash. It's obviously no big deal when our MSM learns of ballot box stuffing or intimidation, it's just another historical note in the decline of our freedom.

They apparently have enough money to buy what they need.

49 posted on 01/30/2012 3:23:52 AM PST by JoanVarga (We no longer have the luxury of ascribing to incompetence what is plainly evil.)
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To: JoanVarga

Fear a third party? After the vicious scorched earth tatcics unleashed by the establishment against anything conservative, I WANT a third party. A conservative party.


50 posted on 01/30/2012 6:48:30 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Not Romney - Not ever!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
The trick will be to convince all of us stuck in the middle to join the cause. Most of the people I've talked with consider the feds as a nuisance at best, and greedy, power hungry bastards at worst. If you could get the middle of the road Americans to rally around your cause, it would prove to be a formidable force. The DNC and the RNC will both tell you that American politics is a two-party system, and will crucify anyone who dares challenge that assumption. It shows that they afraid of any threat to their stranglehold on the federal government, and that the powers to be will quash any notion of a third party emerging, whatever it takes.

One thing to remember is that the Conservatives don't really belong to either party, our ideology is very different from those currently in office.

51 posted on 01/30/2012 5:43:48 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

I think we just need to send a clear message: if you put forth Romney, you will lose to Obama. We will not vote for Romney if he is the nominee. Period.

No third party threat, just a boycott.

If politics is a blood sport, then let’s see if the RNC has enough money to buy the votes they need without us. If they do, we’re screwed anyway, so yeah, bring it.


52 posted on 01/30/2012 6:41:25 PM PST by JoanVarga (We no longer have the luxury of ascribing to incompetence what is plainly evil.)
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To: JoanVarga

No boycott, take the fight to them. Pull all of the support for the current powers to be, and use it to push forward a party that puts Americans first.


53 posted on 01/30/2012 7:01:15 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

It’s been a long day, so let me re-state it better: Boycotting their nominee and writing in my preference.

The ingrained nature of our two-party system makes the idea of a third party rather anathema to certain ranks. I can live with that for now. But there’s plenty of room for real dissent in the ranks at the ballot box.

I WILL NOT vote for Romney. Period. There’s local battles to be won. It’s where the last modicum of our political power resides.


54 posted on 01/30/2012 7:16:03 PM PST by JoanVarga (We no longer have the luxury of ascribing to incompetence what is plainly evil.)
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To: JoanVarga

I hear you, the last thing I want to hear about at the end of the day is politics. It drives my blood pressure through the roof, and cuts into my beer drinking time.


55 posted on 01/30/2012 7:45:29 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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