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To: ml/nj
But his logic here about "statutory construction" is flawed. It is flawed because these two clauses are not part of the same statute. Clause B came after Clause A and most likely was adopted without much thought given to clause A.

"Without much thought"? LOL, go for the brass ring, eh? I'm afraid its your logic that is flawed. It is irrational and specious to argue that the creation of a Constitutional Amendment was done without regard to the sole alternative to the definition of citizenship it would create. In fact, even a little research would show that the entire purpose of the 14th Amendment was to create an alternate definition of citizenship in order to restrict rights into privileges - and in doing so, enable the federal takeover of the country we see today. And as for differing statutes, that is irrelevent - what matters is the common subject matter.

37 posted on 01/27/2012 11:18:59 AM PST by Talisker (Apology accepted, Captain Needa.)
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To: Talisker
In fact, even a little research would show that the entire purpose of the 14th Amendment was to create an alternate definition of citizenship in order to restrict rights into privileges

Completely false, a little research blows your theory right out of the water because that is all it is, a theory.

FACT ... a little research would show that the entire purpose of the 14th Amendment was to create an alternate definition of citizenship in order to restrict rights into privileges. But I have done more than a little research which Mr Donofrio continues to ignore in order to keep up the charade that there is a 3rd class of citizens.

http://www.constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com

53 posted on 01/27/2012 11:36:31 AM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Talisker
"Without much thought"? LOL, go for the brass ring, eh? I'm afraid its your logic that is flawed. It is irrational and specious to argue that the creation of a Constitutional Amendment was done without regard to the sole alternative to the definition of citizenship it would create. In fact, even a little research would show that the entire purpose of the 14th Amendment was to create an alternate definition of citizenship in order to restrict rights into privileges - and in doing so, enable the federal takeover of the country we see today.

The problem for you is that I read history. In particular I recommend that you have a look at Chapter 3 ("The 'Privileges or Immunities of a Citizen of the United States'") of Raoul Berger's Government by Judiciary - The Transformation of the Fourteenth Amendment. You can read this chapter for free at the Online Library of Liberty. Here's a pull quote:

In sum, the purpose of the framers was to protect blacks from discrimination with respect to specified “fundamental rights,” enumerated in the Civil Rights Act and epitomized in the §1 “privileges or immunities” clause. To achieve that purpose they made the black both a citizen “of the United States and of the State in which he resides.” They did not intend by the addition of State citizenship to diminish the rights they had been at such pains to specify, but the better to secure them.
ML/NJ
61 posted on 01/27/2012 11:54:09 AM PST by ml/nj
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