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To: Responsibility2nd
So, how does that make perfect sense to you?

Individual freedom cannot exist without personal responsibility. As a conservative I believe everyone should make their own choices and be responsible for the consequences. You can eat Twinkies all day and weigh 300 pounds for all I care, as long as I don't have to pay for your food or healthcare. Drink yourself silly but pay for your own liver transplant. This is what being a conservative means to me; each person being free to live their life any way they choose as long as they are responsible for the consequences of their behavior. I live in California and could probably score some cocaine by lunch time if I wanted to do so; I just don't like cocaine and what it does to people and communities. If it becomes legal tomorrow I still won't want any. The WOD is just another excuse to rob us of our individual rights. I am not going to vote for Dr. Paul in the primary because I don't think he is electable and if he were elected I doubt he would be a very effective POTUS. That said, I am grateful that Dr. Paul is in the race because he represents individual liberty.

12 posted on 01/13/2012 11:06:04 AM PST by Zevonismymuse (Life'll kill ya!)
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To: Zevonismymuse

I agree with Zevon 100%. It is up to the INDIVIDUAL, not the STATE, as to what the individual does. I consider myself pro-life but I don’t want the government to FORCE my views into what everyone has to do. I’m not a Paulbot but I do think that it’s good we have at least one canidate who is speaking out about the importance of liberty.

I also would not vote for Dr. Paul in the primary because of his “ostrich in the head” stance on Iran and his “he’s a hero” stance on Bradley Manning. That being said, I’ll vote for ANYONE but Obama in 2012. (please, please, please don’t let it be romney...)


14 posted on 01/13/2012 11:12:26 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Zevonismymuse
Dr. Paul is in the race because he represents individual liberty.

He represents nothing. He's a Democrat heckler on a Republican stage. He's there to attack anyone who challenges Mitt Romney. In case you haven't noticed, that's been his sole function in this campaign.

Mitt Romney was the first man in American history to mandate a purchase as a condition of living in a state. We're now halfway through January, and Mr. Constitution hasn't called him on it once. Yet he's attacked every other candidate relentlessly the moment they posed a real threat to Mittens' coronation.

I wonder if they promised him a job or just paid him off in gold bullion.

15 posted on 01/13/2012 11:16:33 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Zevonismymuse
Individual freedom cannot exist without personal responsibility. As a conservative I believe everyone should make their own choices and be responsible for the consequences. You can eat Twinkies all day and weigh 300 pounds for all I care, as long as I don't have to pay for your food or healthcare. Drink yourself silly but pay for your own liver transplant. This is what being a conservative means to me; each person being free to live their life any way they choose as long as they are responsible for the consequences of their behavior. I live in California and could probably score some cocaine by lunch time if I wanted to do so; I just don't like cocaine and what it does to people and communities. If it becomes legal tomorrow I still won't want any. The WOD is just another excuse to rob us of our individual rights. I am not going to vote for Dr. Paul in the primary because I don't think he is electable and if he were elected I doubt he would be a very effective POTUS. That said, I am grateful that Dr. Paul is in the race because he represents individual liberty.

 
 
Individual liberty for the personally irresponsible. Ron Paul is the candidate for dopers and other rejects from society who want their anarchistic values to overide the good of society. And they will misuse the Constitution as they seek to do battle with SoCons.
 
You are right - Individual freedom cannot exist without personal responsibility. And when you instutute libertarian values you will guarantee the loss of personal responsibilities every time.
 
 
 
 


20 posted on 01/13/2012 12:10:05 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Zevonismymuse
I am grateful that Dr. Paul is in the race because he represents individual liberty.

No he doesn't. Another Paul myth. Read what Paul has to say on the inclusion principle of the Bill of Rights. Paul believes State's rights trump individual liberty. He has actually spoken out on things like the Heller decision in that the Federal Government has no jurisdiction to stop a State from trampling on Bill of Rights protected rights.

Paul's philosophy doesn't eliminate tyranny and grant liberty. Paul's philosophy creates 50 State tyrannies to replace 1 federal tyranny. Individual rights take a second place.

21 posted on 01/13/2012 12:11:17 PM PST by mnehring
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