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That the universe arose from nothing is pretty consistent with Christian teaching which is that God created everything ex nihilo, (out of nothing). His problem is that he cuts the creator out of the equation and supposes that somehow matter can act, (self create), and do so before it exists, which is astonishingly silly.


12 posted on 01/11/2012 9:05:53 PM PST by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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Busywhiskers: “His problem is that he cuts the creator out of the equation and supposes that somehow matter can act, (self create), and do so before it exists, which is astonishingly silly.”

Well, it certainly defies the cause-and-effect relationships that govern everything we know in this universe. Look around. Everything has a cause. Yet, this guy thinks the universe itself had no cause? We can't prove either way, but creationism seems more plausible than what this guy is postulating.

24 posted on 01/11/2012 9:50:32 PM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do it. Try good instead!)
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