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Natural Born Citizen Issue (vanity)
1/07/2012 | Blueyon

Posted on 01/07/2012 2:44:54 PM PST by blueyon

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To: blueyon

It doesn’t matter whether his father was a citizen. If you are born in the US you are a natural born citizen, no matter who your parents are.


21 posted on 01/07/2012 3:36:08 PM PST by mlo
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To: Elsiejay; mlo

you two prepared to get bombed......3.....2.....1......


22 posted on 01/07/2012 3:41:46 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: wistful
Mitt's great granddaddy fled to Mexico with his 3 wives and George (Mitt's dad) was born in Mexico. This came from Wikipedia regarding his daddy's run for potus in 1968.

Eligibility

While Romney was born in Mexico, he was still considered a viable and legal candidate for United States president. His Mormon grandfather and his three wives had fled to Mexico in 1886, but none of them ever relinquished U.S. citizenship. While the Constitution requires that a president must be a natural-born citizen, the first Congress of the United States in 1790 passed legislation stating: "The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States." Romney and his family fled Mexico in 1912 prior to the Mexican Revolution. However, the Naturalization Act of 1795 repealed the Act of 1790[citation needed] and removed the language explicitly stating that the children of U.S. citizens are natural-born citizens. As such, it is not clear that Romney [George] was actually eligible for the office of president.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Romney_presidential_campaign,_1968#Eligibility

23 posted on 01/07/2012 3:45:16 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: blueyon; All

Well if Romney gets the nod as the GOP nominee perhaps Obama can make a challenge against him. / sarc


24 posted on 01/07/2012 3:50:46 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Nope, I think this just may be the reason the Republicans have not done anything about Obama. Afterall, it is Mitt’s turn./s


25 posted on 01/07/2012 3:52:07 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: mlo

You seriously do not believe that....


26 posted on 01/07/2012 3:54:06 PM PST by GregNH (One Pissed Off Natural Born Citizen OPONBC)
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To: wistful

I heard your question the 1st time and understood it.

I’m rifling through all my stuff.

And understand you need assurance.


27 posted on 01/07/2012 3:56:19 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: blueyon

Romney’s dad was still a US Citizen, Mexico does not grant birthright citizenship. So Mittens was born to two citizen parents on US Soil, meets all the NBC requirements.

He is still a RINO.


28 posted on 01/07/2012 3:59:05 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Snoopers-868th

Thank you for that information.

Mr Vendome made a very strong assertion, or more or less declared as a fact, that Mitt’s father was a Naturalized American.

I would say that there are many all over the net, who have looked into this fact, who would be very interested to know what information Mr. Vendome has to back up his assertions.

If I had made such a strong assertion, I would have posted the back up info by now.

Leaving Mr. Vendome’s assertion aside, there would seem to be a problem in proving that Mitt’s father ever took part in a naturalization ceremony.

If no evidence of this ceremony can be found, Mitt’s father could be perceived as a Mexican living in the US.

Meaning Mitt Romney is not eligible to stand for President.


29 posted on 01/07/2012 3:59:05 PM PST by wistful
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To: GregNH
"You seriously do not believe that...."

Why on earth wouldn't I? It's been true for centuries, going back to England. The stuff you are seeing people say here now is just a birther fantasy.

30 posted on 01/07/2012 3:59:47 PM PST by mlo
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To: Vendome

OK, that’s great.

Look forward to seeing what you have.

My own observation is that its very hard to find anything to prove Mitt’s father was a citizen, and there is a lot of legal argument on the issue. None of it very definitive.

If someone could just find evidence of a citizenship ceremony, the matter would be closed.

(except for those who claim naturalization is not enough)


31 posted on 01/07/2012 4:04:16 PM PST by wistful
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To: wistful

I am with you. Smarthy remarks with nothing to back them up are just plain rude and uncalled for.


32 posted on 01/07/2012 4:07:26 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: mnehring

Some claim that Mitt’s father would have to have taken out Mexican citizenship because one had to in order to be recognized and legally approved as a missionary. (or something like that)


33 posted on 01/07/2012 4:08:37 PM PST by wistful
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To: wistful

It’s very difficult and I can’t remember where or who discovered the info but, if he ain’t NBC then he is an Anchor Baby....


34 posted on 01/07/2012 4:13:35 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: mlo

if your parents are citizens and you are born in US you are a NBC. If your parents are not citizens and you are born in the US you are a citizen, not a natural born citizen


35 posted on 01/07/2012 4:21:36 PM PST by yeetch! (These are the good old days!)
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To: wistful

You can zip through the links Here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22george+romney%22+citizenship&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvnso&ei=ut0IT4D0H4WdiQKzhaCVCQ&start=10&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=923

Makes sense in more ways than Barry but hey, if anyone wants to call Romney’s eligibility into question, run with it.


36 posted on 01/07/2012 4:22:53 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: blueyon

It’s not where you were born, it’s who you were born from? Were they American citizens? Obama Sr was not, Obama Jr is not a Natural Born American Citizen, basta!


37 posted on 01/07/2012 4:29:20 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
“Natural Born Citizen” means you were a citizen at birth and not naturalized. The 14th Amendment makes that clear. Enough. There's no secret meaning behind it.
38 posted on 01/07/2012 4:36:00 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: blueyon; Vendome

There is a process by which the children of U.S. citizens born in a foreign nation are registered with the Embassy. Not to do so hinders later claims of citizenship.

PA-RIVER, a Freeper, claimed that George Romney has a Mexican birth certificate. If true, that would indicate his birth was registered in Mexico, possibly with local authorities in Chihuahua.

I can find no on-line information as whether he naturalized as a U.S. citizen or was registered later.

George did withdraw from a political race for Republican nominee for President after questions concerning his citizenship arose. Whether that means he discovered his parents had failed to register him with the U.S. Embassy and he needed to naturalize, I do not know.

If George Romney wasn’t a U.S. citizen then that will cause Mitt Romney problems.


39 posted on 01/07/2012 4:36:00 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Snoopers-868th
If you go back to the 1790 legislation, Congress spells it out...you're "natural born" if YOUR PARENTS are citizens. You must interpret that part of the Constitution as it was meant at the time.

Obama does not fulfill the parents issue and only an amendment to the Constition can altar that requirement. Legislation is insufficient.

40 posted on 01/07/2012 4:40:31 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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