Posted on 01/06/2012 11:47:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
"Rick Perry Will Not Depart From His Conservative Record or Path" - The Real Record, The Real Man
Musings of a Rick Perry supporter...
I don’t think the American people know Gov. Rick Perry. He burst onto the national stage and seemed like a Texan, okay, a politician with some nerve, some courage, some outspokenness, who was taking on the sacred cows and telling it like it is. But the debates reversed that image...the early ones. Then there are the lies...oh so many, many MANY lies about him. Because of them, people might be forgiven for their confusion, for not knowing what to believe.
I thought about posing questions all of which start with, “Who is said to have done this or that, but in fact they did so and so instead?” -- to point out the usual points being used to confuse. For example:
Who is said to have been a Gore Democrat, but who in fact had, prior to Gore running in 1988, already voted twice for Ronald Reagan and was in fact one of the millions of Reagan Democrats?
Who did porn publisher Larry Flynt say he would pay the big bucks for information on concerning any woman that could step forward and prove she had had a sexual relationship with him, in order to smear a man who in fact married his childhood sweetheart after courting and waiting 16 years for her to say yes?
Who is said to be weak on the issue of border security and illegal immigration, but in fact has been endorsed by Sheriff Joe Arpaio and has been passed over for endorsement by Senator John “Amnesty” McCain in favor of Mitt Romney?
Who is known for saying that he found Christ at age 27, when his Christian upbringing collided with life and cemented in his being; that he was a childhood churchgoer at his mother’s insistence when she told him, "You’re going to attend one of the two church’s here, it doesn’t matter which one, but pick one...you’re going?"
But you know, some people might not understand how he was raised to be of good moral character and that he didn’t just suddenly jump up and become someone completely different. I know what he’s talking about on the conversion, but the truth is he was raised on Bible stories and morality stories about making the right choices in life for the right reasons.
People deride not only him for having been a Democrat, they are deriding his parents, grandparents and all Texans, really. And he said of his dad, recently, that his dad was a WWII tailgunner who flew in 35 missions over Hitler’s Germany in 1944. This cotton farmer was of the Greatest Generation and did us all proud. Rick said, “..it was by the grace of God that despite my dad’s dangerous missions, he returned home without so much as a scratch.”
As we know, so many did NOT come home. And his dad risked everything to defend America, and would’ve died trying if that was to be his fate.
But they were Democrats, don’t you know?! “Scummy people.”
Sorry to get worked up, but this kind of thing has kept people from truly knowing and understanding Rick Perry, and it’s straight from the Devil’s playbook. The Bible says of the Devil, he is a liar and the father of lies.
Remember the story of when his mom was sitting in the church pew and the preacher was delivering a “social gospel” sermon about all politicians being liars...social commentary instead of a Bible based message to the attendees...and she stood up and said, “My son is the Governor of Texas, and he is not a liar”? And, to the delight of the congregation, she said it again when the preacher continued, not heeding her fair warning and defense of her son.
Who is derided for being “one of the cheerleaders” at Texas A&M, but in fact held the singular title of “Yell Leader,” which was a special leadership position on campus?
Who is said to be dumb, but in fact made the rank of Eagle Scout (as has his son), graduated from Texas A&M, joined the Air Force, piloted a C-130 around the world and left with the rank of Captain?
Who is said to have spent his life as a politician in the public sector, but in fact spent 5 years in the Air Force and 8 years cotton farming on rented land, for a total of 13 career years, along with his formative boyhood years growing up on a West Texas farm?
The “la raza ricky” thing is to give the impression he is very chummy, very tight with la raza, that they’re like hand in glove, when at their invite, he gave them HIS point of view rather than pandering to their agenda.
Bilderberger...guess that’s the new world order or the one world government people, right? And all he did was go once, at their invite, never went back, was never asked back, and I heard him joke...can’t recall the venue... “They must not have liked me.”
There is so much spinning, half-truths and outright lies being put out about Rick Perry, that the mind boggles. His opponents can’t diminish his record so they try to bury and distort it, along with his good character.
In some ways, Rick Perry is damaged because people don’t have a good handle on WHO he really is. They didn’t know him, nationally, except as the Texas governor who excels at bringing in jobs.
Perry has been so gung ho to have people see and understand what has happened in Texas, and what those same policies can do for America, that perhaps he missed a key factor, that before people can put their trust in him for this highest of offices, they need to know WHO he is.
I truly believe if the American people could know and understand Rick Perry, but for the voting, this election would be over. With this information, Americans would understand where he comes from, what shaped him and be very confident that as President of the United States, he will not depart from his life-long conservative record or path in service to his country.
Since the enforcement rests with the BP or other law enforcers (not with the fence), wouldn’t any enforcement activity be subject to lawsuits regardless of who’s plan it is?
Also, do we control the airspace over Indian reservations? If so, then the real-time aerial surveillance technologies should help stop drug trafficking.
“Who is said to be weak on the issue of border security and illegal immigration, but in fact has been endorsed by Sheriff Joe Arpaio and has been passed over for endorsement by Senator John “Amnesty” McCain in favor of Mitt Romney? “
“Since the enforcement rests with the BP or other law enforcers (not with the fence), wouldn’t any enforcement activity be subject to lawsuits regardless of who’s plan it is?”
Numbers game. A fence stops thousand of potential lawsuits coming across the border by its nature, minimizing said enforcement suits...thus saves the American taxpayer Billions.
“Also, do we control the airspace over Indian reservations? If so, then the real-time aerial surveillance technologies should help stop drug trafficking.”
See above.
Real time surveillance yes...then what? Lawsuits and media hype. Now you have the added screaming of Tribes claiming they are being threatened and Democrats screaming more abuse/lawsuits.
Or we just prevent them from getting in with a fence to begin with without all the media and lawyers, saving a fortune in wasted tax dollars on frivolous suits that help elect MORE Democrats.
Just so I understand where you’re coming from, what specifically is your opposition to a complete physical fence?
Are you aware that the ethanol PAC hammered Perry hard because he is the only candidate who was 100% against gov't subsidies?.
If we’re that concerned about avoiding potential lawsuits—it only takes one big one—then I’d say that we’ve lost. The better solution would be for Congress to give the enforcers more protection against bogus lawsuits. IOW, tort reform.
Those fences are monitored 24/7.
The drug cartels are getting more and more sophistcated in subverting our efforts to block their passage. We develop technology and physical barriers to stop them and it works for a while. But then the cartels put their millions/billions into circumventing our solutions.
Two examples: The drug cartels progressed from small planes and fishing boats to submarines ... SUBMARINES! Their tunnels have progressed from shovel-made holes of a few feet to miles of passageways complete with electricity, ventilation, and running water.
Their first submarines couldn’t go very deep. But as we discovered their methods, they built submarines that can go very deep and evade Coast Guard detection.
With the amount of money they have at stake, they’ll keep developing ways around our barriers. Is it worth spending millions/billions on a fence and water diversion that they will just circumvent?
Illegals sneaking across the border obviously don’t have those kind of resources, but they’ve started hiring coyotes who have access to the cartels’ tunnels and using them.
Does that mean we should just give up and not try? No. But I see a 2000-mile fence as a huge waste of time, money, and resources that will be circumvented not long after it’s built. Thus my position that it’s infeasible.
I do like your proposed solutions for the agricultural and environmental issues. I will have to give them some serious thought.
Sorry, I missed your reason at 136.
In response, I just refer to the Dems obstruction and the social/political/financial costs incurred once again.
To 147...that they wont due to the Dems as discussed, is the reason we need the fence.
I agree...they will keep trying and escalating. No question.
We all know the solution to the drug problem involves the Marine corps. Eventually it will come to that. But can you HONESTLY deny that the fence would make a SIGNIFICANT impact in illegals coming here, gutting the DEM power base or greatly reducing the drug traffic?
Subs...true. They can put the ammount of coke on a sub that crosses the border in 2 days on foot...it takes a month turnaround time. In that month the fence has stopped a monsterous amount of drugs and how many subs do they have? 2? 3? Tops? And we already found 2.
Now divert the financial resources spent chasing ghosts across the expanse of no mans land to the CG and those subs have a problem.
I’m sorry. I just do not see why people are so adamantly opposed to a (I’m winging it here) 10 billion dollar project that returns a huge benefit to America when (not you personally) so few make a peep that Govt lately spend that in about 10 H-O-U-R-S!
Just so I understand where you’re coming from, what specifically is your opposition to a complete physical fence?From my post #136: "I don’t think it is necessary or efficient to build a fence all the way from the Gulf to the Pacific. The manpower and surveillance technologies, such as aerial drones, are the most important pieces to get in place ASAP. Fences can be built where and when needed. And if it proves necessary to build it the whole length of the southern border, it can be done."
I don't oppose it per se. If it proves to be necessary it can be done. From my perspective it's about prioritizing resources. More fence means more cost and more manpower for maintenance (we know how proficient the government is at maintaining roads and bridges ... ). The only way to know how much fence is necessary is to build as needed.
Add to that the liberals’ favorite tactic of filing environmental lawsuits to keep things tied up in the courts. They like to prevent any real action on our part by requiring environmental impact studies, etc.
I could split the difference if it came down to it and not be totally depressed ;)...Build about 100’ish miles on either side of every metro area, make them work for it and then patrol the hell out of the rest... but again, there’s that Dem problem with the patrol/enforcement.
But remember what the Democrat/Libs pulled when we brought the fence up for Cali years ago? “This will only lead to deaths as poor unfortunate children seeking a better life die in 140 deg heat in the most inhospitable desert in the western hemisphere...” And a billion articles showing or discussing dehydrated people/puppies/babies that were ‘our’ fault..
And their non stop ranting caused how many millions in delays etc?
Part of my ‘do it all’ position is that we would have to refight the thing from scratch every single time...and then deal with the issues I mentioned before on top of it.
This will have to be my last post tonight. I have enjoyed our discussion. :)
Building a fence the whole length won’t guarantee that those opposed to it in the future, should they gain enough control, wouldn’t simply defund it and let the fence and border enforcement fall apart.
Yup...The BP now has to pay the Interior dept MILLIONS annually to “mitigate” their patrols of “sensitive land” due to such suits. I imagine its the same in Texas.
Most people are not aware that’s where a chunk of their taxes go.
Same here.
Defunding - I’m willing to take that chance...once it’s up ;)
No, I cannot and will not deny that a fence can slow down illegals who are on foot. I don’t believe it would provide any substantial impact on slowing drug traffic though. IMHO, our priority should be stopping the flow of illegals before drugs.
As I said though, they just find more creative ways around, through, over, and under the fence. It seems like a waste to fence 2000 miles of border. I do support strategically placed fencing. I haven’t spent much time examining the cost savings as you have. So I will have to give that some serious tought too.
Regarding the subs ... I watched a special about them recently on the Discovery/History channel or other and the CG said they have no idea how may subs the cartels have now. I suspect it’s more than 2 or 3. The CG suspects they have technology we don’t even know about yet.
We’ve had a good discussion and I have some things to consider, but I don’t think either of us changed our position, do you? I do realize that your perspective has valid points. I hope you can understand that most Texans (including Perry) do not strictly oppose a fence. We just aren’t convinced that it would be as effective as you believe it will be.
Actually, believe it or not, I did a little. I suppose if I HAVE to take a strategic fence, I won’t be as upset as I would have been ;)
Honestly, RE costs...
Sometime when you are feelin’ froggy, as an experiment, grab a pen and paper and take to the logical conclusion the costs involved with Illegals in America. For example, Illegal busted with a bound of pot...then figure the cost from that arrest to ultimate deportation...or arrested for assault.DUI killing some one and the cost to that family for hospital/funeral etc.
It is an absolutely STAGGERING amount of cash well into the billions every single year. Then do a somple cost analysis based on the number of illegals you personally believe that a full fence would stop.
If the numbers add up, well, there ya go. Now here’s the thing. Don’t just think “Education” or “Hospital” as those 2 alone are in the billions. Think of day to day things you see. Like the insurance you and 150 million other pay in higher monthly premiums or the added pharmacy costs to offset welfare.
I think you will be VERY upset at the numbers you generate...then realize you missed about 75% of things you or I would never think of.
Oops...forgot this. Also figure in the cash being sent to Mex and other countries that would remain here, andalso figure in the cost analysis the ‘annual’ savings gained by their lack of presence here.
My head haZ a sore ;)
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