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Iowa ethanol industry celebrates Romney-Santorum
Washington Examiner ^ | January 4, 2012 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 01/05/2012 1:35:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

..........."Romney and Santorum (like Gingrich and Obama) both go 4-for-4 on the ethanol lobby's scorecard. Paul goes 2-for-4 because he would cut oil subsidies and allow 15-percent ethanol blends to be sold, but opposes the mandate and other subsidies. Rick Perry went 0-for-4."


(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: enviromentalism; ethanol; gopprimary; subsidies
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“Iowa Farmer Today” Decision time draws near - December 29, 2011:

The Iowa Corn Growers Association sent questionnaires to the Republicans involved in this year’s caucuses, then issued grades on how it judged those candidates as part of its Iowa Corn Caucus.

The Iowa Soybean Association (ISA) took a different approach, offering its members the chance to listen in on teleconferences with some of the candidates and ask questions.

“We call that our town-hall conference call,” explains Mark Jackson, ISA president-elect. “We want to give people the opportunity to hear the candidates talk about agricultural issues.”

The first of those calls came in early December with former Georgia congressman Newt Gingrich. More than 3,000 people listened in.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry was the subject of another call.

The report cards issued by the corn growers spotlighted the differences between some of the candidates.

For example, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, earned a “D” from the group, and U.S. Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., earned a “D+” while Gingrich earned an “A” and Rick Santorum earned an “A-.”

President Barack Obama earned a “B” as did former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Perry earned a “C-.” Herman Cain, who has since dropped out of the race, earned a “D.”

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Presidential Candidate [Perry] Holds Agriculture Conference Call - [audio]
No subsidies on ethanol, oil and gas, wind, etc.
CUT regulations and let the market place decide.
If states want to invest, fine, but keep the feds out of it.

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Giant ethanol maker among Newt Gingrich’s top campaign donors

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Oh, by the way, ethanol subsidies are dead. Details here and here: the short version is that the Senate back in June kicked off opposition to continued ethanol subsidies via a bipartisan amendment: it didn’t pass, but Congress has just let both the ethanol subsidy and a restrictive foreign tariff (on Brazilian sugar-cane ethanol) lapse. Given that the Iowa caucuses will be finished by the time Congress reconvenes – and given that the House of Representatives is currently chock-heavy with people who spit at the very phrase ‘ethanol subsidy’ – getting back either is going to be a problem for the domestic ethanol industry. Mind you, there are still mandates for using ethanol in place, but note again the ending of the tariff; I’m not a businessman, but effectively lowering the price of Brazilian ethanol by 54 cents/gallon while simultaneously effectively raising the price of domestic ethanol by 45 cents/gallon sounds to me like it would at least raise some intriguing alternatives.”…..

1 posted on 01/05/2012 1:35:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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http://www.statesman.com/news/texas/will-subsidies-to-farmer-perry-come-back-to-1709438.html


2 posted on 01/05/2012 2:33:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

A quarter of a century ago D.O.


3 posted on 01/05/2012 2:37:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/08/290830/perry-farm-subsidies/


4 posted on 01/05/2012 2:37:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Think Progress

Really!?

LOL

5 posted on 01/05/2012 2:38:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yep, when Rick does it, it’s okay. Rick directly benefited. Did Santorum?

Rick’s just too slick...


6 posted on 01/05/2012 2:38:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Maybe you’ll like this source better.

http://www.farmplusfinancial.com/blog/general-farm-loans/perry-backtracks-on-farm-subsidies/


7 posted on 01/05/2012 2:40:14 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick started changing his tune in the mid 1990s. That’s not a quarter of a century ago.


8 posted on 01/05/2012 2:41:27 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s a fine souce DO.

But what does it have to do with today?

Gov. Perry isn’t supporting federal subsidies, Santorum and Romney and Gingrich and Obama are.


9 posted on 01/05/2012 2:42:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DoughtyOne
Rick started changing his tune in the mid 1990s. That’s not a quarter of a century ago.

I stand corrected. My bad math skills don't change the facts on the ground.

10 posted on 01/05/2012 2:43:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DoughtyOne

Why does Santorum support subsidies?


11 posted on 01/05/2012 2:44:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t support ethanol subsidies either, but it does rub me the wrong way to see Perry’s Crew scampering around the internet trying to find dirt on Santorum, even things Perry himself is guilty of.

Perry himself got tens of thousands of dollars in farm subsidies. His extended family got more.

I haven’t seen where Santorum got one dime’s worth of farm subsidies.


12 posted on 01/05/2012 2:47:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why did Rick take tens of thousands of dollars worth of them?

Has Rick Perry paid them back? Please let us know when he did.


13 posted on 01/05/2012 2:48:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I didn’t scurry around anywhere.

It’s in plain sight and it is IMPORTANT!


14 posted on 01/05/2012 2:48:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gov. Perry isn’t supporting federal subsidies, Santorum and Romney and Gingrich and Obama are.

Of the people you mentioned, only one has gotten farm subsidies to my knowledge. That's Rick Perry. Even Obama hasn't gotten them.

15 posted on 01/05/2012 2:51:19 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Perry’s record is an open book.

I ask again, “Why do Santorum, Romney, Gingrich and Obama support federal subsidies?


16 posted on 01/05/2012 2:58:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did you happen to notice this little hit piece on Santorum in the same rag?

Santorum comes to a virtual tie in Iowa, and this rag spins it as an anomaly.

It does it’s best to spin Romney winning easily with almost no effort, but doesn’t mention a super-pac spent $3.1 million in one add buy in late 2011. Romney spent more there, and barely eaked out an 8 point victory, and did essentially no better than he did in 2008. That’s kind of a sleazy tactic.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/2012/01/santorum-will-learn-close-only-good-iowa/2061641


17 posted on 01/05/2012 2:59:27 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

What does your post and link have to do with the score card given to Romney, Santorum, Gingrich and Obama?


18 posted on 01/05/2012 3:01:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When did Perry pay back his tens of thousands of dollars in farm subsidies?

How much money has Santorum gotten directly in farm subsidies?

How much money has Romney, Gingrich, and Obama gotten directly in farm subsidies?

Obama has never gotten a single dimes worth of farm subsidies. Perry has gotten tens of thousands of dollars worth of them.


19 posted on 01/05/2012 3:02:09 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thank you for your comments.

We can let the readers decide.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 3:03:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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