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To: WesternCulture
Dear WC, I honestly couldn't care less where you think I hail from. If adding some logic into some (not all, just some) of your threads makes me Russian or Klingon or the Lobster Man from Mars simply raises queries on YOUR ability to be lucid.

Some of the threads you have brought up in the past have been absolutely ludicrous (one can search for the one where you said a single Gotland submarine can take out the city of St Petersburg; or the classic thread that made many laugh where you raised a scenario asking what would happen if Moscow nuked London, Paris and STOCKHOLM!!!! I was not the only one questioning your sanity on that thread).

Ok, so a Gotland DE submarine has torpedos (totally useless against buildings) and, optionally, naval mines (also useless against buildings) and Conventional cruise missiles (which can damage a couple of buildings). Russia has a number of SSBNs (each armed with a dozen or more nuclear SLBMs that can take out multiple cities half a world away), SSGNs (armed with nuclear tipped Granit cruise missiles with a range of 3,000kms), and SSNs (that can pack shorter ranged cruise missiles). Any ONE of the SSGNs (for instance) is able to absolutely devastate Sweden. Any one of the SSBNs and they wouldn't have to use more than one SLBM if they opt for one that has MIRVs. Sweden has a history of facing up to stronger countries and winning, andas I said you have an amazing history and are a proud people. However, the moment the Soviets went nuclear decades ago the only hope of the Swedes against them was NATO, and specifically the United States of America. The current Russia, in a real war not some silly skirmish like the Georgia debacle, can do more against Stockholm with one submarine than Sweden can against St Petersburg with a Gotland. That is common sense. If that makes me a motley-speckled nightingale then so be it. It doesn't change the fact though that Sweden versus Russia in a fullscale war is as silly as Uganda versus the US.

As for what can be done against Putin - I have faith that the rise of freedom loving Russians and the rise of the church will have a mark (and already is). Furthermore their demographics are not exactly promising, and if they don't watch out they will have the Chinese as a far greater threat than Sweden ever could be ...and anyways Sweden is facing it's own demographic threat, this time with a Muslim tint).

22 posted on 01/03/2012 10:43:12 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

“I have faith that the rise of freedom loving Russians and the rise of the church will have a mark.”

- Let’s both agree to hope so.

Greetings to a spetznaz from a country of kustjägare (although I, admittedly, never served as one)!


23 posted on 01/03/2012 11:01:32 AM PST by WesternCulture
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