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To: Seizethecarp

Forget this “birther” issue. The more appropriate question is whether Obama’s parents were both US citizens at the time of his birth and the indisputable answer is no. Therefore, Obama does not meet the constitutional qualification of a “natural born citizen” Now it’s up to the RNC to make the case to some red states to enact legislation requiring proof of “natural born citizenship” as defined above before they can be placed on a state or federal ballot. If Obama challenges this, then let’s see how the courts handle this.


5 posted on 12/17/2011 10:10:49 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Therefore, Obama does not meet the constitutional qualification of a “natural born citizen”

When was he naturalized?

7 posted on 12/17/2011 10:29:15 PM PST by douginthearmy (Leaning Newt)
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To: Steelfish
“The more appropriate question is whether Obama’s parents were both US citizens at the time of his birth and the indisputable answer is no.”

For me Obama’s parenthood is not “indisputable” due to his apparently forged HI LFBC and failure to legally release HI to in turn legally release the original or certified copies directly to any other independent judicial discovery or investigative experts.

With only a forged BC in evidence I do not know who his father or mother are OR where he was born. Therefore I do not know whether Obama satisfies either of the TWO constitutional requirements of having been born in country to citizen parents as HELD in Minor v. Happersett.

13 posted on 12/17/2011 11:05:58 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Steelfish

The question of ‘constitutional eligibility’ is as nebulous (read a number of FR posts) as the question of his ‘birth certificate’. One should be validated as much as the other. The entire aura of Obama’s being needs to be exposed or made transparent if a politically correct term is to be used.


14 posted on 12/17/2011 11:07:25 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Steelfish

The question of ‘constitutional eligibility’ is as nebulous (read a number of FR posts) as the question of his ‘birth certificate’. One should be validated as much as the other. The entire aura of Obama’s being needs to be exposed or made transparent if a politically correct term is to be used.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 11:08:03 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Steelfish
“Forget this “birther” issue.”

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO,

The fact that the president has provided a FORGED birth certificate is of no consequence to you? Why would a Natural Born Citizen even HAVE a FORGED birth certificate, eh?

While I agree that his father not being a citizen Should disqualify him, but SCOTUS can decide whatever they want on that.

21 posted on 12/17/2011 11:59:27 PM PST by faucetman
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To: Steelfish
Forget this “birther” issue.

You see, some of us prefer not to overlook fraud; clear fraud, not some phrase from 200 years ago that can legitimately be argued to mean whatever the arguer wants it to mean.

ML/NJ

32 posted on 12/18/2011 6:27:00 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Steelfish
it’s up to the RNC to make the case to some red states to enact legislation requiring proof of “natural born citizenship” as defined above

Let me know when this happens!!!

I've been wanting to enter the Miss America contest all my life, and I think the year in which the RNC takes this action will be the year I can win!!

34 posted on 12/18/2011 6:57:44 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Steelfish; Fred Nerks; Beckwith
\The birth certificate that was presented states the father way African (not stated, a Kenyan exchange student) and the mother was how old at the time of birth......17 or 18? Any way you cut it, it doesn't mean a 'Natural Born' citizen of the US.

You are correct that the onus is upon the individual states' election officers to challenge his eligibility to have his name on their ballots. Having had the DNC and a lapdog media snooker them once ought matter little anymore. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" is what it comes down to.
99 posted on 12/19/2011 11:32:21 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Steelfish

It is disputable to say a person is not natural born if he was born on American soil but his parents weren’t.

What is definitely indisputable is if a person is not born in America, he is definitely not natural born.

IMO, 0 has not shown he was born in the United States.


209 posted on 12/21/2011 7:17:09 PM PST by zeebee
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