[Forty-Niner]

“When was he naturalized?”

A very misguided and/or misleading rhetorical question. It assumes that all born citizens are NBC, and disregards the possibility of being a born citizen who does not meet the NBC definition of being born “in country to citizen parents.”

Since passage of the 14th Admendment the US has formerly recognized “born” citizenship for persons other than those meeting the Natural Born Citizenship circumstance.

While Natural Born Citizens are by far the greatest % of all born citizens, not all “born” citizens are Natural Born Citizens.

Obama is one of those persons whose birth to an American mother and a foreign father makes him a born (no need to naturalize) US citizen, but does not meet the criteria for NBC status.

Obama’s pro-offered birth certificate(s) are prima facia evidence that he fails to meet the Article II standard for Presidential eligibility.

Arguing about the place of birth is an Obama generated and promoted red herring to redirect attention from the underlying issue of his ineligibility due to divided loyality parentage.

Your posting of the above question identifies you as either woefully ignorant of the issues involved, or a troll promoting the Obama agenda. There are no other possibilities.

So which are you?

[Seizethecarp]

“Obama’s pro-offered birth certificate(s) are prima facia evidence that he fails to meet the Article II standard for Presidential eligibility.”

This is not true if the birth certificates are forged, which they appear to me to be...

[ml/nj]

Arguing about the place of birth is an Obama generated and promoted red herring to redirect attention from the underlying issue of his ineligibility due to divided loyality parentage.

Your stating such things with complete certainty does a disservice to others reading here at FR. There is obviously divided opinion about what the phrase natural born citizen means. Consider William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States (1829) quoted in The Founders' Constitution:

Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.

I'm not suggesting that this proves that your view is wrong, but rather that it is not certainly correct. If it went to the Supreme Court they could rule one way or the other, or even that a single US citizen parent makes one natural born, and no one could suggest that however they chose to rule was absurd.

On the other hand, the birth certificate images released by the White House on April 27, 2011 are definitely fraudulent.

ML/NJ