I can’t tell what part of this post is intended to be responsive and what part is the original from Fred.
Doing as much international work as we do, you often see the order of the month and day reversed when entered by overseas parties.
So when we see that as a birthdate from someone we think might have been conceived in March of 1960, we suspect that the date being entered is January of 61. I have some problems with that because I think between the date of his birth and the date of his appearance as confirmed by Joseph’s wife, a bunch of things happened.
He mother brought him back to Seattle, I assume from somewhere out of the country although Fred argues persuasively from Hawaii; he and his mother spent some time at Martha Washington home for unwed mothers; all before being seen (as I recall) sixteen months before July of 1962 (which seems to get you to January of 1961).
The timeline is a little tight.
Roman is on the hook for at least two references to himself as places where Barack II is located. Chicago is this one; the other is an entry in Classmates where he signs it Roman Obama as being in a class at Punahoe where Barack II was enrolled.
In trying to reconstruct the real story, I continue to see the timeline as being very helpful.
There are a handful of tight connections that appear to be credible that fix a lot of the story.
One is the on the record interview by Susan Blake where she tells you that in mid August of 1961 when Barack II was a new born baby, Stanley was taking him to Boston; another is the statement, also on the record, where Joseph’s wife places the black baby and his mother in the Capital Hill boarding house in January of 1961; and a third is the statement by Barack II in an interview with the Harvard Crimson which was widely reported by AP in the National Press in which Barry states that he went to Indonesia when he was “about two”.
The latter proposition needs some understanding. Fundamental theocratic Moslems do not celebrate their birth as the date on which the umbilical cord is cut—instead they celebrate their conception (whether they think they are claiming to know the exact date or are celebrating an assumed date I do not know) as the date of the beginning of their life.
However until later in the Presidential period, Barry celebrated the last week in October. So when we read his “about two” point, we assume that means after about October of 1962; sometime before March of 1963 when Stanley returned to Hawaii and re entered the U of Hawaii, at a time when Barry was no longer to be seen.
Susan’s statement that Stanley was on her way to Boston was widely seen as discrediting all of Susan’s story—in fact, Stanley was departing Seattle to live in Boston with both Barry and Roman at a house in Boston, visited in 1962 by Obama Sr. when he in fact did get to Harvard—a house owned by the sister of Barry’s true father. The 1962 date is the first known date on which Obama Sr. and Stanley can be placed at the same place on the same date.
Those three dates pretty well give you a date guide line to sort out these facts in a fashion not inconsistent with a time line that fits the real story.
Another key established fact which also fixes a part of the timeline is the purported University of Washington transcript for Stanley at the University of Washington in 1961.
That transcript is an outright demonstrated fraud—the first computer form did not come into being until long after 1980; the University’s replacement sent to Jerry Corsi is a two column form which was not used until some time after 1961 and would not have fit the binder’s designed for the three column form which was in fact in use in 1961.
It is undisputable that the claimed transcript is intended as a representation of Stanley Ann Dunham’s presence with a black child on Captial Hill in the 1961 academic year and it is equally certain that she was not there and could not have been there.
Thus someone intending to fit the known facts of a woman using the name Obama, with a black child, present on the Hill in that time frame to Stanley Ann was committed an intentional fraud in the act.
That was funny, I had forgotten that. The Classmates pages for Punahou included the name Roman Obama. It was early days. I remember it vividly because ROMAN was also the name of a Polish relative of mine. I'm thinking Roman may have been playing a prank on zero. There must have been boring days during that 'almost a decade' he spent at the Lumumba University in Moscow...