Posted on 12/03/2011 12:27:29 AM PST by Kevmo
NASA’s Bushnell: BTW LENR Solves Global Climate and Energy
admin on December 2, 2011 — 9 Comments
The long-awaited details from Dennis Bushnell’s Sep 22, 2011 presentation have surfaced. They are still not on the official site (bottom of page) and I can’t find the original through Google, so I put a slight cautionary note here that the contents have yet to be verified. Believe it or not, these are just some of the points he makes. None of them will surprise many of you reading this but even so and coming from someone famed for sticking his neck out like Dennis Bushnell, I still have to say, Wow!
Over 2 decades with over 100 experiments worldwide indicate LENR is real, much greater than Chemical, Transmutations, Minimal radiation
The many Rossi demonstrations in 2011 suggest LENR may produce”useful” quantities of heat [up to 15KWs ?]. Watts-to-Kilowatts also produced in Piantelli and Patterson Experiments
Between Chemical and strong force Nuc Energy Densities with minimal radiation safety/ protection requirements/ issues, probably “inexpensive”
Direct and potentially massively/ truly “game-changing”
The Rossi device, possibly producing useful energy but wholly “Edisonian”, not “scalable” and not “Optimized”
Huge number of “knobs”/ approaches appear to”work”, issue is how good can it be? Requires experiments guided by theory and major “creative” efforts/ inputs along with CAREFUL Experiments, YEARS of effort required. Rossi is just the merest beginnings of the research/ engineering optimization required.
Superb light weight power/ energy sources for space probes/ instruments and hoppers/ rovers, far less expensive than solar and better than radiologics for beyond Mars where solar does not “work”
Reduced LEO (Low Earth Orbit) and in space propulsion weights/ costs
Solves EDL (Entry, Descent, and Landing) for large payloads to Mars via ingestion, heating and retro injection of atmospheric CO2
Potentially obviates order of 80% of the 1000 metric ton LEO (Low Earth Orbit) up-mass for Humans Mars which is in-space fuel, Propulsive mass from far outer region atmosphere or regolith
Source for energy beaming, energy to terraform Mars, Enables Active Space Radiation Protection
Overall, enables what we have never had – “Energy Rich” design space[s]
Fuel fraction becomes negligible, huge impacts upon vehicle gross weights, especially for SST’s which are some 55% fuel fraction
For the military– EMP on steroids, VTOL obviates air bases/ runways/ carrier decks, enables loitering combined sensor/ weapon devices [ instead of getting there in time ARE THERE, always]
In Short, LENR , depending upon the TBD performance, appears to be capable of Revolutionizing Aerospace across the board. No other single technology even comes close to the potential impacts of LENR upon Agency Missions.
Test/ determine the performance of the Rossi and Piantelli devices
Experimentally validate the weak interaction theories
The 2 decades of experiments and the weak interaction theories have removed the existential risk, what is remaining is to ENGINEER for improved performance. Also obviously all the safety issues, labs have blown up studying this arena
SO – Invent/ create optimized/ improved LENR “Devices”, testing “Rossi” is merely a small first step, do the systems and propulsive/other application R&D
BTW LENR [ also] solves Global Climate and Energy
We went directly from Chemical to strong force Nuc and in the process bought huge energetics improvements and radiation protection/ safety issues that precluded fission nuc application[s], We leapt over the weak interaction energetics landscape except for radiologics. It is time to back-track.
From the NASA website
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/sensors/PhySen/research.htm
Tests conducted at NASA Glenn Research Center in 1989 and elsewhere consistently showed evidence of anomalous heat during gaseous loading and unloading deuterium into bulk palladium. At one time called “cold fusion,” now called “low-energy nuclear reactions” (LENR), such effects are now published in peer-reviewed journals and are gaining attention and mainstream respectability. The instrumentation expertise of NASA GRC is applied to improve the diagnostics for investigating the anomalous heat in LENR.
Relevant Presentation: + Download presentation given at a LENR Workshop at NASA GRC in 2011 [available soon].
Gawd, you don’t even understand how fuel injection works! “I have a 35 mpg fuel injector?” LOL
Hilarious that in the next breath, you complain about inaccurate technical writing. You are a complete joke.
In fact for a couple of years I worked in the division that designed the USPS "long life vehicle" ~ the main design engineer on that was a chap named David Phillips.
He'd been assigned the task of reviewing, correcting and adjusting the preliminary design submitted by AMC. Guy sat next to me.
Quite educational.
And you?
In fact for a couple of years I worked in the division that designed the USPS "long life vehicle" ~ the main design engineer on that was a chap named David Phillips.
He'd been assigned the task of reviewing, correcting and adjusting the preliminary design submitted by AMC. Guy sat next to me.
Quite educational.
And you?
You apparently weren’t listening the day your colleague explained how fuel injection works...
You apparently weren’t listening the day your colleague explained how fuel injection works...
No, dimwit. All I said is that it’s the easiest way to discredit it.
As far as paranoia, you should read the comments that often come in saying that the oil companies are gonna assassinate various LENR personalities, that kind of thing.
So you have assettion of Focardi not knowing the production process. Now all you need to do is back up the claim that he does not know how they work. That’s the real kicker.
So he’s using “they are his friends” as the basis for his trust. Certainly not a scientific opinion.
***This does not back up your assertion. You’re talking about Kullander’s basis for deciding to trust Rossi, not whether or not some of these scientists have a clue about what’s going on inside an ECat.
So he’s using “they are his friends” as the basis for his trust. Certainly not a scientific opinion.
***This does not back up your assertion. You’re talking about Kullander’s basis for deciding to trust Rossi, not whether or not some of these scientists have a clue about what’s going on inside an ECat.
And me, I was the one working on every brand of car that came in and was never stumped and to me, it was just a way to pay for college but now I realize I was wasting my time, I could have done what you did and sit next to a college grad and become an expert that way.
For you muawiyah:
Crazy over the rainbow I am crazy
Bars in the window
There must have been a door there in the wall
When I came in
Crazy over the rainbow he is crazy
Pink Floyd's, The Wall, The Trial.
Reiterating that Rossi refuses to allow any independent testing of his gadget.
***This does not refute the statement “None of the other scientists you mentioned (nor anyone else) has a clue about what’s going on inside and E-Cat.” Maybe Kullander doesn’t know, but you have claimed that NONE of them know. Also, there’s a difference between knowing what’s going on inside a device and getting independent testing of it.
Kullander doen’t know how it works, and is “deeply skeptical” of the explanation provided by Rossi.
***My favorite Vort, Jed Rothwell, is also deeply skeptical of the explanations provided by Rossi. That does NOT mean, by ANY MEASURE, that ‘None of the other scientists you mentioned (nor anyone else) has a clue about what’s going on inside and E-Cat.’
I think I see the problem here. You make wide generalized claims about who knows what, it does not meet up with scrutiny, and then you try to throw spaghetti arguments against the wall and see if they stick.
You are wasting your own time, my time, and that of other FReepers.
Bet you're a Romney guy.
Bet you're a Romney guy.
Bet you're a Romney guy.
What's the matter, are more and more people starting to realize that you know nothing and are just parroting words you find via Google and Wiki. Too funny.
I see you still haven't figured out the refresh function, some genius, I'll be laughing at you for a long time, especially when I see your 'expert' postings full of scienc-y words that mean nothing.
Don't forget your night pills, you know how you get without them.
You’re sick. Go take a jump off a bridge or something.
You have a severe case of cognitive dissonance. Your affected mind is being split farther as you try to reconcile two diametrically opposed thoughts in your head. One of them has to be wrong.
I'm giving you a break because it is clear, you've got some mental issues that need to be dealt with and I take no pleasure in that pronouncement. Get help, if you really worked for the USPS for forty years, you must have a decent plan, use it. If you have a problem where mental function is deteriorating, the new drugs may stop the decline but they can't gain back what is lost so get help ASAP.
Eighteen hour isn't enough?? (18-hour "no-steam" experiment done by Rossi, Levi, and, I think, Bianchi.). Unless you're talking about the 1MW??
See "throttle-body fuel injection".
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