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I will never vote for Ronald Reagan!
FreeRepublic.com ^ | 11/30/11 | Mr. K

Posted on 11/30/2011 10:07:06 AM PST by Mr. K

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To: Herodes

You suffer under the illusion that there exists a gnat farts’ worth of difference between Romney and Obama other than pigment.


41 posted on 11/30/2011 11:20:23 AM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: pogo101

Newt’s Baggage:

04/02/1987 – He cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine
10/22/1991 – He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
03/–/1993 – He Voted for sending $1.6 Billion in foreign aid to Russia.
11/19/1993 – He voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act.
11/27/1994 – He supported the GATT Treaty subjecting US Sovereignty to the WTO
08/27/1995 – He suggests that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
04/25/1996 – Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion)
04/10/1995 – He supported Federal tax dollars being spent on abortions.
06/01/1996 – He helped a Democrat switch parties in an attempt to defeat Ron Paul in the 1996 election.
09/25/1996 – Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
01/22/1997 – Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
11/29/2006 – He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. Wants to stop terrorists from using the internet. Called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
11/29/2006 – He called for a “Geneva Convention for terrorists” so it would be clear who the Constitution need not apply to.
02/15/2007 – He supported Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
09/28/2008 – Says if he were in office, he would have reluctantly voted for the $700B TARP bailout.
10/01/2008 – Says in an article that TARP was a “workout, not a bailout.”
12/08/2008 – He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
03/31/2009 – Says we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
07/30/2010 – Says that Iraq was just step one in defeating the “Axis of Evil”.
08/03/2010 – Advocates attacks on Iran & North Korea.
08/16/2010 – Opposes property rights of the mosque owner in NYC.
11/15/2010 – He defended Romneycare
12/05/2010 – He said that a website owner should be considered an enemy combatant, hunted down and executed, for publishing leaked government memos.
01/30/2011 – He lobbied for ethanol subsidies.
01/30/2011 – He suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
02/13/2011 – He criticized Obama for sending less U.S. taxdollars to Egypt.
02/15/2011 – His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating “a new endowment for conservation and the environment.”
03/09/2011 – He blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for the country.
03/15/2011 – Says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
03/19/2011 – He has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability)
03/23/2011 – He completely flip-flopped on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
03/25/2011 – He plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first day as president.
04/25/2011 – He’s a paid lobbyist for Federal ethanol subsidies.
05/12/2011 – He was more supportive of individual health-care mandates than Mitt Romney.
08/01/2011 – He hired a company to create fake Twitter to appear as if he had a following.
10/07/2011 – He said he’d ignore the Supreme Court if need be.
11/16/2011 – Was revealed he actually received 1.6 million from Freddie Mac, vs. his previously stated $300,000-

2009-2010 Travels around the country with Al Sharpton and Arne Duncan to promote President Obama’s new educational policies: i.e. increased local control of schools with increased Federal subsidies and regulations from Washington.

2010 Supported ultra-liberal, pro-abortion, pro-union, establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava in New York’s 23rd Congressional District in a special election, over conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

1995 Gingrich Wrote the foreword to Alvin Toffler’s book, “The Politics of the Third Wave, Creating a New Civilization” and advocated all members of Congress should read the book. The book calls for a “New Democracy” for the 21st century which is essentially based on following Plato’s Third Wave virtues:
1. Private property must be abolished, the wealthy hated and their wealth redistributed by state mandate.
2. Children belong to, and are born to serve the state. The influence of parents is noxious and disruptive to the interest of the state, thus every child should be raised in government nurseries, without knowledge of who his or her parents are and without the parents having knowledge of who their offspring are. Every child becomes the common property of every parent in the city. Every parent has the collective duty to watch over them.
3. Private education, like traditional parenting, is at the very headwaters of falsehood and social strife. It must be eliminated and replaced with a closely monitored state school system.
4. Old values passed down in history, song, children’s books, all need to be rewritten to discredit and erase the old virtues and to exalt and enthrone the new.
5. Frivolous children’s games eliminated, new games developed that emphasize law and order.
6. Private industry is self serving. State should have absolute control of all industry for benefit of the whole.
7. Class mobility is a revolutionary idea that threatens the stability of the state and the pre-eminence of true philosophy. A strict caste system and the elimination of career choice is the answer.
8. Talent must never be allowed to wander or be wasted. Early on, children must be identified and channeled by the state for the benefit of the state into careers selected by the state.
9. Under the guise of equality, women ought to be exploited: first to foment ‘class war’ during the Third Wave (women’s roles are reversed to men’s); next, to be promptly put into their place as part of a ‘community of women’ to be shared collectively by male guardians.
10. Selective breeding is beneficial to the state.
11. Unwanted babies, inferior babies, deformed babies, and the adult handicapped are an unnecessary drag on the prosperity and well-being of society. They should be left to die. Unproductive adults, likewise, should be terminated.
12. Homosexuality is morally acceptable and homosexual rape of lower-class males and boys is a right of rulers, guardians and war heroes.
13. Only a few men are foreordained to understand life and higher good… the rest are equivalent of dumb sheep.
14. Absolute loyalty to the government is vital for the success and safety of society. A state sanctioned National Police network is an essential good.
15. Wealth is not essential to the safety of the state.

- Gingrich voted to permit the Federal Reserve to purchase Treasury Debt
- Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
- Gingrich voted to strengthen the federal home loan agencies
- Gingrich voted for increased powers to the FDIC to bail out struggling savings and loans through reorganization, purchase of bad assets, or recapitalization.
- Gingrich voted in favor of the Chrysler Bailout in 1979
- Gingrich voted for an oil windfall profits tax in 1979, which was signed by Jimmy Carter.
- Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more power.
- Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
- Gingrich voted against a provision requiring congressional approval prior to deployment of U.S. troops into Central America in 1983.
- Gingrich voted to increase CIA secrecy and against any requirement that the President report covert activity to congress before it is initiated.
- Gingrich voted for Jimmy Carter’s “Energy Mobilization Board.”
- Gingrich voted for an increase in taxes on coal producers in 1981
- Gingrich voted for a 5-cent increase in the gas tax to fund highway and other mass-transit projects.
- Gingrich was one of the few who voted against the 1984 bill requiring the President and Congress to submit a balanced budget
- Gingrich voted for a congressional pay raise
- Gingrich voted against a bipartisan 1% cut to the Department of Defense budget for 1983


42 posted on 11/30/2011 11:22:07 AM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

bttt


43 posted on 11/30/2011 11:27:48 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Mr. K

The thing is, when 1980 rolled around Ronald Reagan was a proud, articulate, genuine conservative. Most of the failures in the GOP race right now aren’t any of these things, especially conservative.


44 posted on 11/30/2011 11:37:24 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Grunthor

2012 is much less about 2013-2016 than it is about who picks replacements for Ginsberg and, likely, Scalia. Two more Kagans and the country is screwed, irreversibly, for 30-40 years.

There isn’t a single GOP candidate who wouldn’t do better than BHO on picking the next two SCOTUS justices.

I live in Pelosistan, aka the People’s Republic of California, and my POTUS vote is worthless.

Strategy for 2012: vote for (R) as POTUS and encourage family and friends to do likewise. Provide nose plugs. Contribute to Tea Party Congressional candidates where redistricting has created possibilities. Contribute more to Tea Party campaigns in the purple states, the only states that will matter to the Presidential campaign. If even a Romney wins POTUS but has to contend with a growing Tea Party and diminishing cronyist GOP old guard, even he’ll see the writing on the wall and not veer left.

There is NO reason not to believe Romney won’t fulfill his promise to stop Obamacare as his first act. That alone is worth NOT staying home and allowing a 2nd BHO term.

Goals:
1) GOP victory as POTUS, even with a RINO.
2) GOP majorities in House and Senate.
3) Get another couple of John Roberts onto SCOTUS.
4) Have the Tea Party Congressional coalition, Bachmann, Ryan, et al lead the country back to financial solvency. It’ll take longer than one term, but we need to start.


45 posted on 11/30/2011 11:42:45 AM PST by rantblogger
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To: Mr. K
I will vote for Lady Gaga if she gets the GOP nomination. I will vote for a stale bagel if it gets the GOP nomination. I will do every legal thing in my power to keep Obama from a second term. The republic is at stake and most people somehow forget there are senate and house races as well. A fully republican congress with even a RINO as president could go a long way to save this republic; a second term for the Marxist could well doom us as a nation.

I don't like Mitt and I don't think Newt can win. I'm pretty sure the fix is in and Mitt had it sewed up long ago. I will vote for him and I will not enjoy it but it is necessary. Third-party dreams mean that Obama gets 4 more years and someone on the supreme court just might need replacing. Mitt would make a poor selection, Obama would make a disastrous selection. I despair but I have no real choice. It still comes down to Mitt vs. Obama and there is no arguing the evil choice we will have. A RINO is better than a marxist and in 40 years of voting I have never been able to vote for a perfect candidate.

46 posted on 11/30/2011 11:47:07 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: rantblogger; muir_redwoods

I agree. I won’t sit it out, even if we get handed our Willard.


47 posted on 11/30/2011 12:01:58 PM PST by pogo101
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To: JohnKinAK

I agree, that’s a lot more/ worse than Reagan’s baggage!

(Will still vote for Newt if he gets the nomination, however.)


48 posted on 11/30/2011 12:06:34 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Grunthor

Which one do you want to pick the next supreme court justice?


49 posted on 11/30/2011 12:09:44 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: Grunthor; muir_redwoods

Robert Bork is on Romney’s Judicial Advisory Committee.

That’s not enough for me to make Willard my preference, not by a long shot.

But it’s enough to let me view Willard as a “hold my nose” acceptable “backstop” for whom I can vote, due to judicial picks. (I suppose Willard could somehow still pick bad judges, but Bork has no reason to subject himself to embarrassment if Bork ddidn’t believe that Willard would pick well.)


50 posted on 11/30/2011 12:18:40 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Lazlo in PA
Back then, flaming was done the old-fashioned way.

With pitchforks.
51 posted on 11/30/2011 12:24:51 PM PST by kenavi (1% of the 1% were born in the 1%.)
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To: rantblogger

What kind of judges did Romney appoint in Massachetts?


52 posted on 11/30/2011 12:51:31 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I do not see a difference between Romney and Obama other than pigmentation. You do. Good for you.

Convince me. No, the “R” following Romneys’ name is not enough.


53 posted on 11/30/2011 12:52:59 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: pogo101

You are telling me that this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU is acceptable to you.

‘kay.


54 posted on 11/30/2011 1:03:06 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Grunthor

More acceptable than Obama, hell yes. Can’t see vids here, but I assume it is romney being his weaselly self.


55 posted on 11/30/2011 1:06:52 PM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101

Yep it sure is. No, Romney is NOT more acceptable than Obama. Neither is acceptable. A Romney nomination will lead to a third party challenge and conservatives will vote for that third party leading to two things; a second Obama term and the end of the Republican Party.

Me? I wouldn’t vote for Mitt Romney if there was literally a gun to my head. I will simply check out of politics, make sure that I got my farm self sufficient and let the nation go to hell. Given a “choice” between Romney and Obama....it’s bound and determined to get there anyway.


56 posted on 11/30/2011 1:12:34 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Mr. K

once again people thinking Reagan was some conservative god. Saying that, this whole lot of candidates are NO GOOD. Obama is bad, but that doesnt mean, well lets go with romney,newt,perry they are slightly better...hell ANYTHING is slightly better, you guys can continue to listen to levin bitch about us infighting if you want.


57 posted on 11/30/2011 1:29:59 PM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: Grunthor
What kind of judges did Romney appoint in Massachetts?

the problem lies in finding conservative lawyers to appoint, amirite?

58 posted on 11/30/2011 1:33:21 PM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: 09Patriot

Partially but the bigger problem to me is ROmneys lack of steadfast principles.


59 posted on 11/30/2011 1:34:44 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Grunthor

oh, no i wasnt defending him, wont vote him no matter what I just hate it one people discount a candidate by who they think they will appoint to the supreme court...folks there arent going to be too many conservative lawyers to choose from. and if congress did their job they can remove out of control judges, we need pressure our reps more.


60 posted on 11/30/2011 1:49:02 PM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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