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National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate
onlygunsandmoney ^ | 23 November, 2011 | John Richardson

Posted on 11/24/2011 7:24:07 AM PST by marktwain

Now that HR 822 has passed the House of Representatives in overwhelming fashion, it moves to the Senate. Unless I am greatly mistaken, there is significant pressure on senators from both sides of the debate. The Brady Campaign is ramping up the pressure with an auto-mailer campaign asking senators to vote no. Nonetheless, even they admit they don't have the votes to stop it.

I sent an email today to Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC) about the bill. While I have no worries that Sen. Richard Burr will be a solid backer of the bill, Hagan can be wishy-washy despite her claims of being a Second Amendment supporter. What surprised me was that I got an email back from her office almost immediately discussing her stance - if you could call it that - on the bill. If she hadn't been getting lots of mail on the issue, she wouldn't have been so prepared to issue something other than a generic thank you for your letter response.

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting me regarding National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 822). I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this important issue.

This bill was introduced in the House of Representatives on February 18, 2011, and was referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

If enacted, the bill would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry their firearm in any other state that also issues concealed firearm permits. Currently, 48 states, including North Carolina, have laws permitting residents to carry concealed firearms.

While H.R. 822 has yet to reach the Senate, I pledge to keep your thoughts on this issue in mind. My family, like the great state of North Carolina, has a long tradition of hunting and gun ownership, and I take great pride in that heritage. I have opposed requiring gun owners to obtain federal licenses or creating a federal system to track gun sales and transfers, as I believe these proposals would infringe this important constitutional right. I will continue to support the rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment.

Again, thank you for contacting my office. It is truly an honor to represent North Carolina in the United States Senate, and I hope you will not hesitate to contact me in the future should you have any further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Kay R. Hagan

If you haven't already done it, it is time to contact both of your state's senators and urge them to vote for the National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011. I wouldn't want to think that our voices could be drowned out by an auto-mailer run by the Brady Campaign.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; reciprocity; senate
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To: marktwain

I’d like to see the gun rights orgs/pols expand the CCW power to allow direct shipment of firearms, even if they have to do the 4473 thing. If the CCW holder has passed both state and federal background checks, he should have the ability to receive firearms directly. Right now I’d even settle for being able to buy a handgun in another state.

Constitution carry states would be a problem, but then one can usually get a permit from another state - so long as the background check requirement is met.


21 posted on 11/24/2011 9:30:19 AM PST by Oatka (This is the USA, assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The feds could force everyone to accept Utah's low standards

Huh? Four states (AK, NH, WY, AZ) require NO permit for either open or concealed carry (though all will issue one for reciprocity purposes). From the anti-gun perspective, those would seem a "lower" standard than that of Utah. And one I would actually prefer.

22 posted on 11/24/2011 9:32:10 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Oatka
Constitution carry states would be a problem,

The Constitutional carry states will still issue a permit with background check, for reciprocity purposes. At least I know AZ and AK will.

23 posted on 11/24/2011 9:44:20 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: backwoods-engineer
The Constitutional carry states will still issue a permit with background check, for reciprocity purposes. At least I know AZ and AK will.

Good point. I got one from AZ "just in case".

24 posted on 11/24/2011 9:52:47 AM PST by Oatka (This is the USA, assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Huh? Four states (AK, NH, WY, AZ) require NO permit for either open or concealed carry (though all will issue one for reciprocity purposes). From the anti-gun perspective, those would seem a "lower" standard than that of Utah. And one I would actually prefer.

Texas doesn't allow concealed carry without a permit. If you are a resident of those states that allow CHL without a permit, you'll have to get a permit to carry in Texas. Texas also also doesn't recognize Utah's CHL's due to their lax criteria. Representative Todd Hunter will sponsor legislation in 2013 to allow open carry by CHL holders.

25 posted on 11/24/2011 9:57:50 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: umgud
Didn't happen with marriage or drivers licenses. This is not a fed ccw issue law

Actually it did happen with marriage. Ever heard of the Defense of Marriage Act of 1996? Under that legislation the federal government does not recognize "same sex marriage" and the states are permitted to not recognize "same sex marriages" that occur in other states. If it weren't for the Defense of Marriage Act, the courts might have compelled by the courts to recognize "same sex marriages" from other states.

26 posted on 11/24/2011 10:38:35 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

I’ll give you that, but homo sexual marriages, are clearly outside the norm and are not generally protected by the constitution. There are other areas too, that aren’t recognized accross borders. Contractors licenses, etc.


27 posted on 11/24/2011 11:00:47 AM PST by umgud
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To: backwoods-engineer

I’m in AZ and I constitutional carry. I’d have to get a CCW for this law to affect me.


28 posted on 11/24/2011 11:09:23 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: gettinolder
Something doesn't pass the smell test here.... Would this bill require registration on a Federal data-base of any CCW guns?

No. "Gun Control" is becoming the third rail of american politics. We are winning.

29 posted on 11/24/2011 5:24:15 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Twice now you have posted that Texas doesn’t recognize Utah carry permits.

They most certainly do.

See here: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/reciprocity.htm

They even recognize South Dakota’s which has no requirements at all, except pay your $10 and pass the background check. (I have one.)


30 posted on 11/24/2011 6:26:02 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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