[dirtboy]

Gingrich said that such a plan must (A) start with securing the border,

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We hear that from all the amnesty shills. And they are as serious about that as Obama is about a balanced budget.

[Sudetenland]

There's ignorant and there's just plain downright dishonest, which are you? I'll bet you haven't even bothered to read the Krieble Foundation's Red Card plan, but you're ready to attack Newt without informing yourself.

It's okay, I understand some people simply react out of emotionalism rather than reason.

What does your candidate suggest? For that matter, who is your candidate?

[NaturalBornConservative]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We hear that from all the amnesty shills. And they are as serious about that as Obama is about a balanced budget.

Following that logic, then anyone who proposes to secure the border first is just an "amnesty shill". I believe the question was - What will you do with those who are already here illegally, after securing the border?

We can't blame those who are already here for having simply walked across an unsecure border, or for the federal government's failure to identify, ID, and track them. Calling anyone with a reasonable plan an amnesty shill, doesn't solve the problem. Besides, what Gingrich proposed isn't really amnesty. It's a way to solve the problem, with broad based appeal.

[GrannyAnn]

We will never “secure” the border. So what is the definition of a secure border? Janet says it's secure now.

So let the amnesty begin.

The only way to stop illegal immigration is to make it extremely difficult to stay here - ENFORCEMENT and DEPORTATION. But no one wants to try that first.

They want to pretend that the border is “secure” and then grant amnesty. To me, if you get to stay without fear of deportation, that is amnesty.

[Ron H.]

What's that old addage about a picture being worth a thousand words.....

Friends don't let friends vote for liberal RINO's.