Posted on 11/11/2011 12:20:45 PM PST by ken5050
I've been following the events at Penn State as they unfold, and like everyone, am horrified at what I've read. But there are two things that have bothered me about this story, that I'm having trouble understanding, keeping in context, and may well provide a viable alternative explanation of what happened.
He was the most powerful man in Pennsylvania when he turned 78. The Board of Trustees asked him to resign and he simply said "no." Did you notice he was still around at 84, when this Hidden Monster finally outgrew Joe Paterno?
Some are virulently so.
I heard Cefalo’s talk show when I was down there, he’s a very conservative guy.
Paterno knew what was going on and chose to ignore it, getting the most wins was more important.
Penn State should have been a lot more specific. The University allowed Sandusky to hold sleepover athletic camps for youth on its other campus through 2008.
The fact that he said no doesn't mean that he had more power than the Board of Trustees. It means the Board of Trustees just decided not to use their power.
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So there were more powerful people than him. They just decided not to exercise their power.
Paterno knew what was going on and chose to ignore it, getting the most wins was more important.
We don't know whether that is true or not.
Since you basically just re-posted the charge you'll understand if I do not accept your apology.
I'll just say that like others, I sure, I'm learning more about this scandal as I participate in these threads.
What I do not understand is why points of view on the appropriate way to perceive Paterno post scandal that differ from you and others should generate the vitriolic response it apparently does.
You might see things different if you look at it from a fundraising aspect, the (illicit?) fundraising brings all the necessary money to recruit players to the point you don’t need to be a great coach when surrounded by talented players that that amount of money at your disposal could attract besides the petty competitive edges that are used to gain an advantage.
Follow the money.
“I am aware of the incident when they came to his house. He was able to hold onto his job like that, but it doesn’t make him the most powerful man in Happy Valley. If they really wanted to, Spanier and Curley could have fired him, and being afraid of public backlash isn’t what stopped them.”
Nope. It’s because he knew where the bodies, literally, were buried and you don’t make him mad.
NOW the trustees fire him because it’s already gone public...and THEY didn’t do it...so he has no reason to out them...yet.
You seem to want to downplay the seriousnes of this. You keep trying to exonerate him from this. Why?
Sounds like you are in the name calling business. You must have tons of friends or people who pretend they are one.
Nope, it’s not my business.
Just a hobby.
Moron.
Sandusky is of Polish ancestry but I don't know what religion he has, if any. Most Poles are Catholics but Tim Pawlenty is of Polish ancestry and is a Protestant I think.
If people like you hang out in here, I wonder why people hang out in here. YOU JERK!
No one would want to continue to interact with Sandusky if he raped your child. You would move your child to another state and get away from the pervert. I can’t believe McQuery would still want to work around him if he was raped or molested as a child.
I apologize. This topic has brought out the worst in me. I think I would have handled it better had I disliked JoePa or been neutral when the story broke, but I was a "No way, don't say that about JoePa" guy. And then I read the GJ documents.
I'm not irritated by opposing points of view; I'm irritated (and at this point I am *not* referring to you) at JoePa deniers who have opposing facts. The "Sandusky was banned from campus," and "JoePa notified the head of the university police," and "the report says JoePa wasn't told about what happened" people.
Well, I also make exception for the non-lawyers who spout legalese on here, like "JoePa couldn't report it, because it would be hearsay" (umm - comment that's soooo wrong on soooo many levels).
So I welcome your opposing points of view and I apologize if I tread on them. I'm sorry if I'm snippy, but I lost a hero of over 35 years. And I may still snap at what I think are misstated facts, but I'm trying to get over it. My wife says I need to consult a grief counselor. And I'm not even much of a college football fan. I just read, and read. And I respected Joe Paterno. For decades.
I wondered that myself.
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