Posted on 11/01/2011 7:53:42 PM PDT by bullypulpit
If you read between the lines of the various news reports about the Cain operation, the picture becomes clearer to me every day. The latest dust up about the sexual harassment of employees confirms it.
Leading up to the sex scandal, we had the clues. Now I know it to be so, that Herman Cain is an ass, and he's reckless.
The first clue came just after Cain placed poorly in the Iowa straw polls. We heard from disgruntled former Cain staffers:
Jim Zeiler, the regional field director who was one of the five disgruntled staffers who left, explained his decision with a devastating assessment of Cain, saying the candidate was more interested in jet-setting than running a campaign that incorporates traditional grass-roots techniques.
"Hes not inquisitive. He wants to be in front of the adoring crowds, but he doesnt seem to be interested in the issues," said Zeiler, a former regional field director for Cains campaign.
(Source: Politico, "Cain's campaign crash continues at Ames")
Mr. Zeiler was a disgruntled former staffer. This kind of tripe is expected in today's coarse society. No one gets asked to leave, or quits in anger, without throwing the former boss under the bus. If you've ever employed people, you know this. A good friend of mine, an employer in the retail industry, told me that his strategy when interviewing potential new hires is to ask himself "How long will it be before this person screws me," not if he/she will screw me. The "screw" is inevitable.
So, it's easy to dismiss this accusation as the disgruntled ex-employee getting his last jab. The "screw."
Since Cain staffer Jim Zeiler has left, however, we have seen how Herman Cain isn't very sharp on the issues. He certainly isnt 'presidential material smart.' I only posted five gaffes here. I have 10-20 more. Electric fences, anyone? Do you think he's serious about learning the issues? I don't. My radar was still searching, though.
Next, we hear that Herman Cain doesn't want staffers to speak to him unless those staffers are spoken to them by Cain first. Apparently this rule is enforced when staffers are chauffeuring the candidate around. The New York Times sources that accusation from an intercepted email in the reporter's hands that originated from campaign leadership. Was it from "The Smoking Man"?
For goodness sake, the poor drivers for Cain are probably star-struck young interns or volunteers. Do barely paid, or volunteer campaign workers deserve to be treated that way?
To be fair, Cain explained that he does tell people driving him to shut up when he's preparing for a speech. In this Right Scoop video, he's all chuckles about it. I thought that it was reasonable. Maybe. My radar was honing in, though.
I re-read the Times article tonight, in light of the sex scandal. The article details more arrogant behavior.
Does this sound like someone who should be leading in the GOP nomination polls?
After all of the staff revelations, we now have the sex scandal. Viewing the scandal in a vacuum, it's easy to run to Cain's defense. My initial reaction was that this was Clearance Thomas 2.0, and we cannot let this stand. This is Herman Cain, a conservative black man deserving of our support against the evil marauders in the mainstream media.
However, when viewed through the prism of earlier reports of Cain's egomaniacal behavior, the sex scandal makes perfect sense. My radar locked on.
Cain is arrogant and reckless. He mistreats people working for him. Why would not Cain's penchant for employee mistreatment also include sexual harassment? This is especially true of the powerful, arrogant CEO versus the weak, insignificant female employees.
What is more, regardless of Cain's waffling denials of the sex scandal's ingredients, there are not one, but two incidents. One would think that a powerful, calculating CEO would figure out what went wrong the first time, and avoid a second accusation.
Two accusations reinforces my point, that Cain is arrogant and reckless. He doesn't believe the rules apply to him. Why not invite a young employee to his hotel room?
Radar locked. Fox One!
Herman Cain is not ready to be our Republican standard bearer.
I've been here for 11 years and I am sick of seeing the RINO crap of the past 7 years take hold.
Get my ass banned if you have a problem with me. I have kids growing up in this world. RINOs aren't going to help them survive.
I actually don’t mind Perry.
I’m just on this thread, defending Cain. :D
fireman15, you are STILL patronizing me. You gay or something? ::grin::
I am actually having the time of my life. This forum is ON FIRE, and you know what? A lot of Perry supporters who have been silenced by these CainBots are coming out and having the opportunity to say their piece. And some of them are saying some very serious things. Cain supporters continue to post unserious comments. Not all, but most.
BTW, this is not “another” anti-Cain thread of mine. This is my first one. I was actually concerned that if I posted something factual and negative about Cain, I’d get zotted. I even said good bye to my buddies in the Texas forum when I posted this.
No question. He has problems alright, and he hasn’t debated well. I haven’t decided yet.
Quite some time ago I managed a small department with three or four female employees (the number varied over time).
One of the agents once disagreed with something, I believe she didn’t get some title, or enough hours or something I really do not remember, the details are fuzzy - were even then. Basically I believe she complained she had been sexually discriminated against. Not harassed, she just claimed she had not been treated equitably as a female.
The staff was all female.
Despite the absurdity I thought this to evidently be on its face - the top boss (who if I remember might even have been the person who recommended she work in the department, somehow her “in” I think) took me one day along with himself, and our fellow employee to speak with the ... judge, I would suppose? at some sort of labor hearing. It was all odd, and at the end of it, he took out a checkbook and literally wrote her a check for a few hundred dollars. That was the impression I was left with, from his explanation. I was flabbergasted by the entire situation. Never really understood it entirely.
I didn’t do anything, was not reprimanded, was never even accused of anything, but the very fact she alleged she had (somehow) been discriminated against, meant that for the boss it was simply cheaper to give her some money and make it stop.
It was my one experience with that sort of surprizingly illogical system.
Cain is doing just fine.
It is disappointing to see too many right on our side, eagerly do the bidding of the wrong side, just for selfish advantage...
In Ohio. With a degree. Working as a Pharma professional.
Sure thing, New Yawka. I'm too much of a gent to ask what kind of "lady" you are.
There was always a EASY OPT OUT.
Some made it about opt ins, but it was done that way to reduce the COST of the vaccine.
No one forced anything.
Perry acknowledged that the executive order gave an appearance of impropriety, though it was unfounded.
Then there were the unfounded accusations of being in bed with Merck (Have we seen any PROOF YET?)
I and other Freepers have met her, so I don’t really know what you are talking about.
That’s actually flat out untrue...Perry has had some terrific town hall type formats and some terrific interviews.
But it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, from what I’ve seen.
This is a religion thread? Well, hallelujah!
Im just on this thread, defending Cain. :D
I'll happily take either one of them. Romney is the one who's unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.
Well, so are Paul and Huntsman, but they don't really have a shot.
I do think this schtick about Cain and sexual harrasment is a liberal hit piece, perhaps RINO, perhaps democrat, either way it's ridiculous how much traction it has gotten in the media.
This reminds me of what they tried to do to Palin.
Yes, you could be right. That’s why we need to look at all the facts. They could be lying, and on the other hand, maybe he is lying.
You are not comporting yourself like a gentleman. This thread is not about my friend, Victoria. It is not about you, either. And that seems to be irritating you. Have nice day
The irrational traction in media si what makes me suspect this originated from David Axelbastard.
“he hasn’t debated well”
Perry agrees with that.
But like in the old Peggy Lee standard: “Is that all there is?”
I grew up in Ohio and we don’t treat women that way there.
We don’t do that in Texas either.
The head of the associations human resources department during Cains tenure offered a different account, telling POLITICO last week that she was unfamiliar with any complaints from female employees about Cain.
You know why that is?
Because getting rid of employees who make false/stupid charges against people by paying them off happens EVERY DAY.
The Left, through the infamous Equal Opportunity Employment Commission and their buddies in the trial lawyer bar, create this culture where employers would rather pay someone a few months salary severance (a, gasp!, five-figure settlement), or even millions of dollars, to get rid of them than have to fight blatantly false charges.
Then the Left uses the fact of these shut up settlements to say, see, that man, that company must be awful, someone actually made a SEXUAL HARASSMENT CLAIM against him!!
It's vitally important to understand how the system actually works:
Putting Herman Cain's Sexual Harassment Complaints in Context
Reagan Man! Thanks for the post. I love ya brother! I agree that Perry needs to do better in the debates. And I know he will. He has shown the amazing ability to vastly improve, overcome, and adapt throughout his career. He’ll make all of us Aggies proud, and Texas proud too. Just wait and watch, and never stop pulling for him, because in trying times like these, a good man needs a good posse.
Joe
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