eCat: Customer Is Large, Well Known Industrial Group

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[Kevmo]

eCat: Customer Is Large, Well Known Industrial Group
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2011

Rossi Inside The 1MW Fusion Plant
Yesterday there was a rumor doing the rounds that Rossi's customer was in fact the US Navy. Today however, Daniele Passerini, the Italian blogger and close friend of Giuseppe Levi (who is normally clued into inside information) said the customer "is a well-known and large industrial group".

"And finally we come to the E-Cat, in particular the first test plant of 1 MW. Beyond the short time available to me to write, I have very good reasons at this time to keep a low profile and not talk about it on the blog, I'd rather not say more until October 29. Then try to make it up to an account by providing as much detail as possible, but as far as possible. I hope that by then there may be updates as well on the opening of the E-Cat experiments in Uppsala and University of Bologna.


I confirm that there is a customer interested in buying the 1 MW if the test is successful: it is a well-known and largest industrial group (I gave my word not to say below). I confirm that the test set-up mode is "closed doors" have been requested by the customer."

Passerini has since January, been a proven highly credible source of information because of his friendship with Giuseppe Levi and his close involvement with behind-the-scenes events in Bologna. A well-known, large industrial group who could put their weight and financial muscle behind mainstream adoption of LENR could catapult the eCat from relative obscurity to the most talked about phenomena in living memory.


It is extremely difficult to think of another prior development or invention in history that could bring such dramatic change in a short time to so many people. But with the promise of change and shifting economic and geopolitical power balances comes censorship from the networks of mainstream corporations that really run the planet.


Reporting on the eCat is like fighting an information war and like any war the first casualty is always the truth.

More Mainstream Media Censorship

Yesterday, we also had some more concerning reports of mainstream censorship of the eCat and all the events in Bologna.Vaughan Granfield used our Open Blog to tell us the following:

"I have recently been bloging the British news paper called The Guardian about various possibilities and possible applications of how the e/cat may help humanity industry and the environment .But i find that they are removeing all traces of any blog that even uses the words Andrea Rossi or E/cat except a few just to cover themselves. If any British bloggers dare, try the guardian and see how free we are."

*Free Energy Truth has also separately contacted a handful of very high profile media figures and organizations for comment on the eCat and have received either no response, or no comment.

Wikipedia Gatekeepers Continuing Their Own Brand Of Censorship

"On October 6th 2011 an E-cat ran in a completely stable self sustained mode for over three hours. The power output was estimated to be between two and three kilowatts. Roland Pettersson, retired Associate Professor from the University of Uppsala, who witnessed it said "I'm convinced that this works, but there is still room for more measurements", was removed entirely. It's sourced to a reliable source so I see no need to delete it. - Liftarn

"Quite right too - until we see the results of independent scientific investigations published in a reputable peer-reviewed journal, to describe such fluff as 'information' is a breach of Wikipedia policy. - AndyTheGrump

So there you have it folks. If information does not exist in a peer reviewed publication, then it does not exist, (According to Wikipedia), even when that information comes from a reputable source. The information the masses are getting to see by is being filtered, sanitized and cherry picked. Perhaps the drooling pseudosceptics who police Wikipedia have part-time jobs manning the Chinese Firewall?

I've got news for them. They will lose the information war.
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[Kevmo]

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[Kevmo]

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[enduserindy]

I hope this is real but I’ve seen as much said by those who know more than I that its a sham as those that said its the real deal. I can’t wait to know for sure and hope this is what sets us (humanity) free. Can we take a poll of sorts? Is it real?

[WellyP]

There is just no way the damn thing can work...but I hope it does! If it does work, it will change the world.

[Moonman62]

"I have recently been bloging the British news paper called The Guardian about various possibilities and possible applications of how the e/cat may help humanity industry and the environment .But i find that they are removeing all traces of any blog that even uses the words Andrea Rossi or E/cat except a few just to cover themselves. If any British bloggers dare, try the guardian and see how free we are."

Maybe they just discriminate against poor spelling and capitalization.

[toast]

I have come to the opinion that Rossi is a sloppy engineer. His measurements, methods, and documentation are crap.

But, he still may be onto something.

[Moonman62]

I have come to the opinion that Rossi is a sloppy engineer. His measurements, methods, and documentation are crap.

He has poor people skills too, according to Kevmo. I won't even go into his "character issues" and shady past. I don't know why anybody would consider him a competent scientist, engineer, or businessman. But read the comments on this thread. He gives people hope, just like the con artist in the White House.

But, he still may be onto something.

Like how to separate suckers from their money.

[Kevmo]

Can we take a poll of sorts?
***I would enjoy that.

[Kevmo]

I don’t know why anybody would consider him a competent scientist, engineer, or businessman.
***There’s that Energy Catalyzer thing, which has stood scrutiny from several reputable scientists who are far more qualified than you.

[Kevmo]

What would a LENR thread be without its seagulls...

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Your Seagulling contribution to this thread is duly noted

Why don’t you buzz off and eat some garbage?

[KoRn]

I’ll believe in it when we ‘see’ it.

I tend to be skeptical, given the lack disclosure, though a certain amount of secrecy about something like this is understandable.

[Moonman62]

There’s that Energy Catalyzer thing, which has stood scrutiny from several reputable scientists who are far more qualified than you.

What kind of scrutiny has the "thing" withstood besides the bathroom scale test? Did any of those reputable scientists publish their work in a real scientific journal?

[Kevmo]

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Your Seagulling contribution to this thread is duly noted

Thanks for bumping the thread, Moonboy Seagull

[Kevmo]

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Your Seagulling contribution to this thread is duly noted

Thanks for bumping the thread, Moonboy Seagull

[count-your-change]

From Free Energy Truth, Oct. 28, Main article:

“Brad Arnold sums the mood up perfectly when he said:
“I don’t think it is too grandiose to say the hopes and dreams of countless people alive now, and that are yet unborn, are on Rossi this week. The importance of this occasion can not be overstated.”

I LOVE IT! There's even a video that stumbles all over the place trying to find enough grandiose claims of world changing significance, etc.

The only thing left out is time travel and fewer wrinkles.

[Kevmo]

Let’s see whether you are able to address a hypothetical. My guess is you ain’t.

If Rossi’s invention turns out to be cold fusion, all those grandiose claims are reasonable.

What would be your response to that?

Here, let me help you get past what you want to post. You feel it absolutely necessary to knock down the hypothetical portion of the statement, so much so that you will never really address it. Tons of blather about how this couldn’t be true, it’s too good to be true, he’s just a con artist.... blah blah blah, but never really addressing the hypothetical. Lots of FReepers suffer from this. Even after reading through this whole paragraph, they STILL cannot address a hypothetical. It’s just not in their nature to think inductively, they are simply inadequate.

[Sea Parrot]

Tesla was a genius and so sloppy he seldom put any big idea down on paper, it was all in his head, and the ideas worked.

Same with John Browning. he conceived mechanism ideas, then got with engineers and draftsmen to work out the details on paper.

IIRC, Browning thought of the idea for an autoloading rifle when target shooting a .44-40 Model 1873 Winchester with friends and seeing the weeds getting blown aside near the muzzle upon firing.

He got on his horse, rode to the shop and in a few hours had the jury rigged Winchester 73 capable of firing a cyclic rate of several hundred rounds a minute.

Yep.

“Browning converted a Winchester 1873 lever-action to an autoloader by using the action of the gases at the muzzle.”

http://www.sightm1911.com/1911-History.htm

“John Browning first experimented with self-loaders in 1889 when he modified a Winchester 1873 lever-action to work as an autoloader by using the action of the gases at the muzzle.”

http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/1911care.htm

[Moonman62]

I wonder if Bernie Madoff encouraged his investors to consider the hypothetical and think inductively.

[count-your-change]

“If Rossi’s invention turns out to be cold fusion, all those grandiose claims are reasonable.”

No, not at all and here are a few examples of devices that work well and on well understood principles but hardly have changed the world

1. Solar hot water heaters. Simple in construction and reliable with a payback time of ten to twelve years. Even less if a home had hot water heat for space heating.

Why does not every house have one?

2. Thermal depolymerzation. The process can be used to handle a cities waste. The process works, the chemistry is well understood and produces usable oil besides solving a a disposal problem.

Why does not every city use it?

3.Animal cloning. An endless supply of the best livestock and any day now human cloning. End of story? It works well for some plants but no one has a herd of Kentucky Derby winning horses.

There are a great many inventions that actually work (to varying degrees) but never become world changing technologies.

Remember nuclear fission was going to make electricity all but free.

Reality has a way of sinking the a boatload of claims.

[count-your-change]

While they watching their net worth turn into the Hindenburg they probably had other things to think about.