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To: Confab

Why do you label it “demeaning” to simply say you disagree which is what I’ve done in the majority of my posts here? I strenuously disagree with your contention that there is a lack of irrefutable evidence for my faith. There is plenty of evidence. Also, most Christian denominations (excepting Mormons) agree on the basics of the faith. I don’t know what bible you’re referencing, but mine teaches the trinity.


241 posted on 10/29/2011 1:26:12 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

Please don’t take offense, none was intended towards you. I should have been more clear. The demeaning part wasn’t directed towards you as much as others.

As far as evidence of your faith, there is plenty of evidence of many parts of your faith, but where’s the irrefutable evidence for the Trinity, faith vs. works, etc.? Christianity has been battling among themselves for centuries over key doctrines. Who’s right? The wars in our day over in Ireland for example indicate Christians are still willing to kill each other over these differences.

As far as most Christian denominations agreeing w/ each other on the basics of the faith, do they agree on faith vs. works, baptism, repentance, the order of the priesthood, women & gays in the priesthood, etc.? These aren’t inconsequential doctrines.

Your bible teaches the Trinity? The bible in John 10 teaches that the Father, Son, & Holy Ghost are one right? Read John 17:11, 22-23

11 “And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are”,
22 “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one”
23 “I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me”.

So, who is one? There are a ton of other passages that give a different meaning than that accepted by Christians as well. I copied posts by Delphiuser & Reno232 regarding this issue. Maybe I’ll dig them up & send them to you or post them here.

The fact that most Christians accept the Christian Trinity dogma means nothing to me. The Lord’s people, the Jews, accepted false doctrine taught by their leaders for a long time before Christ arrived. The majority doesn’t mean truth.

Lastly, did the Lord ever explain why He developed the 3 entities in the first place, if they’re all one? Why not just God, one entity? Why develop the confusion? To what end?


243 posted on 10/29/2011 2:27:46 PM PDT by Confab
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