I do not for one minute think you are as unfamiliar with the conditons of which we are speaking. I grew up knowing of these conditions and the people involved on both sides. These are not bad people nor or they dishonest. I have no idea how to explain anymore than I have attempted to explain already. You are looking for an argument when a conversation would have sufficed. I am not the bad guy here. You have attempted to make me look stupid and unaware of things of which I am very aware. I cannot believe our worlds are that different.
I am familiar with the idea that some ranchers hire illegals, many of my friends and family have tried to get jobs from ranchers that hire illegals. Imagine what it is like to know a person that shouldn’t even be here got a job you wanted and needed to provide for your family. A few illegal workers always crossed to work but during the Carter years it happened more and more as things got tough and Carter essentially opened the border with his policies. Ranchers and farmers would say- I’m sorry, I need to save money, yada, yada or they felt sorry for them. No one cared that illegals were taking those jobs and pushing out citizens- many working in agriculture jobs especially in the Southwest were replaced by illegals. People not in agriculture jobs didn’t want to hear about it either- “oh noone wants those jobs”- it was B.S. then and it is B.S. now.
As time went on it wasn’t just agriculture, but construction, hotels, restaurants, you name it...wash rinse and repeat until we are where we are today. It wasn’t right then and it isn’t right today. I don’t know what you and your family do for a living but how would you like it if your country decided it was ok to let people flood in illegally to replace you??
Thank goodness there are still honest ranchers, farmers and others that will hire citizens, even though those that don’t follow the law seem to do just fine, and may make more money than they do.
There are many ranches here; some run thousands of cows, not hundreds- they all hire citizens, there are at least two men working on a ranch here that have work permits to come work legally but I don’t know of a single illegal working around here. If I knew for sure someone here was hiring illegals I would report them as would my neighbors. I have never heard of priests and doctors visiting ranches to care for the employees in my lifetime but will take your word for it that it happens there.
If you really are aware of all the issues of hiring illegals and still defend it then we are VERY different. You say you are against it, but you repeat the open borders mantra of “no gringo will do that work” or it is a way of life or whatever to justify it. “Gringos” will do that work, and hiring illegals is only a way of life for those that chose to do it.
We live every day with the border issues, Rob Krentz was murdered about 40 miles from here as the crow flies and my daughter was in his daughter’s wedding. Another “gringo” was murdered by border trash a couple months ago not too far from here, but it wasn’t in the news long. Armed smugglers are caught here, right where cowboys have to go check water for cattle just as Rob was doing when he was murdered. We can’t travel unarmed and have issues constantly with illegal traffic. Houses are broke into, even rural schools, illegals abandoned by coyotes have even tried to carjack vehicles, and things are stolen and trashed all the time by border traffic. It is even so much worse in Arizona which is not far from us.
We really must be in different worlds.