'Ultra-Right', 'Extreme' John Birch Society Saw It ALL Coming Down the Pike...

Reaganite Republican ^ | October 17, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

50 years later,  history is proving them right-

as it will soon enough the TEA Party

The John Birch Society was founded in 1958 by Robert Welch, a retired candy manufacturer who saw collectivism as the main threat to Western Civilization, with useful-idiot-type liberals serving as "secret communist traitors" that provided cover for a move towards world socialist government   The organization took its name from an American Baptist missionary (and US intelligence officer) who was shot dead by Red Chinese forces in August 1945, therefore it was that John Birch was honored as 'first fatality of the Cold War'. 

The agenda was pro-family, pro-Christian, anti-communist, anti-UN, and anti-big government, while treating the principles of the US Constitution/Bill of Rights as sacrosanct. The JBS charter was based on opposing plans of what they said were a small group of 'Insiders' working surreptitiously both in and outside of government to bring the this country's free-market enterprise system to it's knees while incrementally stripping America's sovereignty and inflicting a socalist society upon our people. But they also felt both the USSR and US governments were under the influence of the same international cabal, one keen to bring about a collectivist 'New World Order'... all orchestrated from behind the scenes and by-hook-or-by-crook.

Naturally such conspiracy theory brought massive derision -particularly from those exposed- and the John Birch Society was mocked as paranoid and delusional- among other things. But just listen to what the man had to say back then in '73 -most of this quoted from their 1958 charter- and you tell me he's not warning us of the the heinous internationalist-socialist Sorobama regime that's currently ripping this country a new one...

Agenda of the NWO 'Insiders', according to JBS (1958):

• surrender of American sovereignty to UN and other international organizations

• greatly expanded government spending... 'as wastefully as possible'

• higher (and then much higher) taxes

• increasingly unbalanced budget- despite tax increases

• wild inflation of our currency and destruction of our savings

• greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy... and every activity of our daily lives

• correspondingly huge increases in federal bureaucracy, and both cost and reach of government 

• far more centralization of power in Washington (and gradual erosion of states' power)

• gradual, creeping federalization of education system

• anti-war propaganda, "peace" at all costs... thus inevitably on enemy terms (of course) 

Just 'cuz you're paranoid 

doesn't mean they're not after you:

If you find that level of conspiracy theory to much to swallow, consider this: The second head of the John Birch Society was Congressman Larry McDonald from Georgia, who was killed on September 1, 1983, when the Soviet Union shot down KAL 007... the only congressman killed by the Soviets during the Cold War.

Welch's 1973 speech video/pics/more at Reaganite Republican

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The John Birch Society   RightWingAmerica   Wikipedia 

[Lancey Howard]

My grandfather was a member and I still have his 1959 copy of ‘The Blue Book’.
There is some fascinating reading right there.

[MikeSteelBe]

Marxism is the most dangerous lie from the pit of Hell.

Other sins prey upon our most base selfish instincts, such as theft and adultery.

Even an “enlightened” leftist would agree with a conservative Christian that those things are wrong.

Marxism plays upon the Christlike desrie in people to care about the welfare of others as much as oneself, but it’s means put government in the role of God.

[Travis McGee]

I also noticed that V-fist on the cult leader at the Atlanta rally. I don’t know what it means, other than guessing.

[prairiebreeze]

Interesting post, thanks for the ping.

[archy]

The lower right fist with peace sign . ... . Do you know its origin?

Working on it. Some background *here*.

[archy]

The lower right fist with peace sign . ... . Do you know its origin?

Working on it. Some background *here*.

[archy]

The lower right fist with peace sign - that was the emblem on the shirt of the “guy with the mike” at the atlanta OWS site, when they denied John Lewis a speaking opportunity. The only difference was that it was on a red background.

Do you know its origin?

ETL, ping for your attention- you observed this'n before?

[JosephW]

Well the book is available free for the Nook at Barnes and Noble. Doesn’t appear to be available for the Kindle.

[archy]

The "V" sign was popularized by Winston Churchill during World War II, but I doubt the leftists who used the sign starting with the "Ban the Bomb" movement in the 1950s were fond of the British wartime leader.

As with the clenched fist sign, there may have been earlier manifestations of its use, but I am not aware of any.

Read and learn:

An early recorded use of the "two-fingered salute" is in the Macclesfield Psalter of c.1330 (in the Fitzwilliam Museum, Cambridge), being made by a glove in the Psalter’s marginalia.

According to a popular legend, the two-fingered salute or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War. According to the story, the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech. If this is correct it confirms that the story was around at the time of Agincourt, although it does not necessarily mean that the French practised it, just that Henry found it useful for propaganda, and it does not show that the two-fingered salute is derived from the hypothetical behaviour of English archers at that battle.

The first definitive known reference to the V sign in French is in the works of François Rabelais, a sixteenth-century satirist.

It was not until the start of the 20th century that clear evidence of the use of insulting V sign in England became available, when in 1901 a worker outside Parkgate ironworks in Rotherham used the gesture (captured on the film) to indicate that he did not like being filmed. Peter Opie interviewed children in the 1950s and observed in The Lore and Language of Schoolchildren that the much older thumbing of the nose (cock-a-snook) had been replaced by the V sign as the most common insulting gesture used in the playground.

Desmond Morris discussed various possible origins of the V sign in Gestures: Their Origins and Distribution (published 1979), and came to no definite conclusion:

because of the strong taboo associated with the gesture (its public use has often been heavily penalized). As a result, there is a tendency to shy away from discussing it in detail. It is "known to be dirty" and is passed on from generation to generation by people who simply accept it as a recognized obscenity without bothering to analyse it... Several of the rival claims are equally appealing. The truth is that we will probably never know...

The insulting version of the gesture (with the palm inwards) is often compared to the offensive gesture known as "the finger". The "two-fingered salute", also known as "The Longbowman Salute", "the two" and as "The Tongs" in the West of Scotland and "the forks" in Australia, is commonly performed by flicking the V upwards from wrist or elbow. The V sign, when the palm is facing toward the person giving the sign, has long been an insulting gesture in England, and later in the rest of the United Kingdom; though the use of the inward peace sign as an insulting gesture is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. It is frequently used to signify defiance (especially to authority), contempt, or derision.

—Desmond Morris
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[RoadTest]

“Marxism plays upon the Christlike desrie in people to care about the welfare of others as much as oneself, but it’s means put government in the role of God.”

Good analysis.

[archy]

The socialist signs are all over the OWS movement. I was wondering if this particular one had a specific group that was using it.

There are a couple of reaalllly interesting ones out there. In particular, watch for the red/black flags and symbols of the anarcho-syndicalists, but some of the others are downright fascinating.

[Triple]

Thank you very much.

[searching123]

FBI FILES ON BIRCH SOCIETY AND ITS ASSERTIONS:

This 129-page report explains why J. Edgar Hoover and senior FBI officials within the Bureau’s Domestic Intelligence Division concluded in FBI memos that the JBS was “extremist”, “irrational” and “irresponsible”

http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jbs-1

DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE JBS

I have started a major project which will present a documentary and chronological history of the Birch Society based upon documents which have previously never been publicly available.

A sample of what will be forthcoming may be seen on my new webpage here:

https://sites.google.com/site/ernie1241/Home

I anticipate that this project will take several months to complete.

[x]

Was it really that hard to predict?

There has been a socialist ideology or movement for a long time, and the Democratic Party and the liberals have tended in that direction, a few steps behind but still moving that way, for a long time as well. So over time, you'd see the political agenda changing to reflect those views.

But the Soviet Union and the actual Communists -- a large part of the Birchers thinking and world view -- are out of the picture. I guess people make up for that by calling other groups "Communist" but it does look like a major misjudgment by the Birchers.

Also the idea of Wall Street using the Communists or leftists to consolidate its own power seems a bit off as well. The elements are there -- millionaires, foundations, liberals, leftists -- but what's coming out of it is hard to pigeonhole in the old categories.

It's attitudes that are changing in a given direction. Who will come out on top or what the power structure will look like is harder to say.

Not all the groups that the Birchers identified as part of their conspiracy theory are really compatible with each other, and who benefits most in the end is still unclear.

[little jeremiah]

Where I live there are quite a few signs “The US out of the UN and the UN out of the US”. Cheers me right up.

[Reaganite Republican]

Who cares what x-drssing JEH said... my whole point is they were dismissed as kooks and look like they WERE RIGHT about all everything... while ‘sensible’ people were often communist dupes

I’m taking a look at their accuracy in predicting the future... can’t imagine why anyone would feel the need to resist that, save for some Leftist agenda

[ETL]

Re: fist with peace sign

you observed this'n before?

Never seen it before, but, among similar meanings, the clenched fist is of course a symbol of communism.

http://occupywallst.org/

[ETL]

A common Anarcho-Syndicalist flag.
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"The raised fist (also known as the clenched fist) is a salute and logo most often used by left-wing activists, such as: Marxists, anarchists, socialists, communists, pacifists, trade unionists, and black nationalists. The raised fist is usually regarded as an expression of solidarity, strength or defiance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_fist

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Exclusive: Bill Ayers Talks About Election Night in Grant Park

From NBC Chicago, Jan 21, 2009:

Bill Ayers was "overflowing with happiness, relief, love" when he and his wife went to Grant Park with tens of thousands of Chicagoans to celebrate the election of President Barack Obama.

Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, spoke exclusively with NBC Chicago's Dick Johnson about why they joined the Election Night celebration in the park, where 40 years before they helped stage the Days of Rage riots.

The couple said they got last-minute tickets from a friend to be in Grant Park that night.

"I couldn't stop crying a couple of times. I found the exact spot where I was beaten 40 years ago," Ayers said. "But I've never been in a crowd that large that wasn't edged with either anger or drunkenness or gluttony, and it was really an extraordinary feeling."

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Exclusive-Bill-Ayers-Talks-About-Election-Night-in-Grant-Park.html
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"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
--B.H. Obama

YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star, and anarcho-syndicalist red and black, on his shirt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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Bill Ayers: "I considered myself partly an anarchist then and I consider myself partly an anarchist now. I mean, I'm as much an anarchist as I am a Marxist which is to say I find a lot of the ideas in anarchism appealing."

[ETL]

http://usdayofrage.org/
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"Gleeful about the raging riots that held England captive this week, the tweet has gone out to activists and ‘disaffected’ youth to “occupy wall street Sept 17” today. Social Networks FaceBook and Twitter are abuzz with plans for coming anarchy on U.S. soil.

The Days of Rage will continue beyond the ‘occupation’ of Wall Street with activists being told “bring your tent”.

http://www.black-and-right.com/2011/08/14/the-us-day-of-rage-is-coming/
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The original "Day(s) of Rage"

Days of Rage riots (1969)
The Days of Rage riots in Chicago took place over a 4-day period beginning October 8, 1969, after members of the Weathermen, a militant offshoot of the Students for a Democratic Society [SDS], converged on the city to confront police in the streets in response to the trial of the group of anti-Vietnam War activists known as the "Chicago Eight".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Rage
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January 12, 2009:
Revolutionary ferment in Greece – a taste of what is to come for the whole of Europe
http://www.marxist.com/revolutionary-ferment-greece-taste-for-europe.htm
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Anarcho-syndicalism

A common Anarcho-Syndicalist flag.

In the early 20th century, anarcho-syndicalism arose as a distinct school of thought within anarchism.[78] With greater focus on the labour movement than previous forms of anarchism, syndicalism posits radical trade unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the state with a new society, democratically self-managed by the workers.

Anarcho-syndicalists seek to abolish the wage system and private ownership of the means of production, which they believe lead to class divisions. Important principles include workers' solidarity, direct action (such as general strikes and workplace recuperations), and workers' self-management. This is compatible with other branches of anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalists often subscribe to anarchist communist or collectivist anarchist economic systems.[79] Its advocates propose labour organization as a means to create the foundations of a non-hierarchical anarchist society within the current system and bring about social revolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

[ETL]

Re: Occupy Wall Street, 2011

He [NYC Police Commissioner Ray Kelly] said that following Wednesday's [Oct 12, 2011] 10,000-strong union march, a much smaller group tried to storm police barricades at Wall Street and Broadway.

"They locked their arms. They counted down - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. Then they decided to charge the police. That is going to be met with some physical force," Kelly said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...

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Re: Kent State, 1969

"the purpose of all this agitation at Kent State was to recruit as much cannon fodder as possible, and then to provoke a "major confrontation." When it came, it would be neither accidental nor spontaneous. It would be exactly what the revolutionaries wanted.

On April 8, 1969, S.D.S. toughs marched through various campus buildings, disrupting classes as planned, chanting "Ho, Ho, Ho chi Minh," and striking campus police officers. One of these hoodlums pleaded nolo contendere to a charge of assault and battery, and drew a fine and jail sentence. The university scheduled a disciplinary hearing for two others on April sixteenth, at which time about one hundred revolutionaries smashed into the Music and Speech building where the hearing was being held, destroyed property, and again attacked police officers. Of the fifty-eight demonstrators arrested, ten were not even students at the school. At the rally preceding the march on the disciplinary hearing, non-student Jim Mellen told the audience as follows: "We're no longer asking you to come and help us make a revolution. We're telling you that the revolution has begun, and the only choice you have to make is which side you're on. And we're also telling you that if you get in the way of the revolution, it's going to run right over you." Mr. Mellen's remarks were included in a liberally distributed S.D.S. pamphlet, which began with a quotation from Mao Tse-tung and the following warning: "The war is on at Kent State University ...."

At a meeting in Williams Hall on April 28, 1969, revolutionary Communist Bernardine Dohrn said that people fighting "oppression" would have to carry weapons for "self defense." On May sixth, at another campus rally, Joyce Cecora called for armed rebellion: "They used guns at Cornell and they got what they wanted. It will come to that here!" And at still another rally on campus on May twenty-second, S.D.S. member Rick Skirvin said this: "We'll start blowing up buildings, we'll start buying guns, we'll do anything to bring this motherf***er down."

Michener quotes a student named Ken Tennant as follows: "With me it goes back to the music festival they held at Fred Fuller Park in September, 1969. Four Weathermen came down from Chicago, with insignia on their bib overalls. They were selling their organization newspaper, and I said, 'I'll buy a copy if you'll tell me what your outfit stands for.' They said, 'We're going to destroy this corrupt American society and build a better.' I asked how, and they explained, 'We've decided to close down schools all over the nation. We're going to start in Chicago. But we have our eye on Kent State, too. It could be ripe.' "

Bear in mind that we have room here to cite only a few examples of the inflammatory agitation and propaganda on the campus at Kent State for almost two years. The evidence establishes—in the words of the revolutionaries—that the goal of S.D.S. was to provoke a violent confrontation in which somebody would be hurt, or even worse.

And the most incredible such example took place on April 10, 1970, when Jerry Rubin spoke on the campus at Kent State. Jerry Rubin is a Communist, of course. We can be absolutely sure of that because he has said so repeatedly. In fact he said he was a Communist when your reporter asked him about it at the Democrat National Convention in Miami in 1972. At that Convention Rubin also said that, when he and his Comrades take over, your reporter will be gassed. At Kent State, Communist Jerry Rubin said this: "The first part of the Yippie program is to kill your parents. And I mean that quite literally, because until you're prepared to kill your parents, you're not ready to change this country. Our parents are our first oppressors."

Your first reaction on reading a thing like this, of course, is that maybe I have taken it out of context. You refuse to believe that anybody would say this. But Rubin really told the students what you just read. It is important to remember that, at the time, Jerry Rubin was a convicted criminal—he had been convicted for leading the turmoil at the 1968 Democrat National Convention in Chicago, where terrorists attacked the police—which raises the question of how such a man could be permitted to address students on a university campus in Ohio.**

Rubin also told the Kent State students to burn down the suburbs. "The American school system will be ended in two years," he explained. "We are going to bring it down. Quit being students. Become criminals. We have to disrupt every institution and break every law. We should have more laws so we can break them, too. Everybody should have their own law to break." As for the campus itself, Comrade Rubin told the students to ignore their professors, and to "burn all the books. It's quiet here now but things are going to start again."

The campus was now ready. Almost two years of intensive Communist propaganda had their effect. A sufficient number of students was willing to serve as cannon fodder for the revolutionary "cause." The Communists needed only an excuse to provoke their "major confrontation." Three weeks later they got their excuse.

[snip]

"...it is important to quote at length from the state grand jury report on the affair: "Fifty-eight Guardsmen were injured by rocks and other objects hurled at them as they moved across the 'Commons' to Taylor Hall Hill and down to the practice football field, and were then forced to retreat .... it is clear that from the time the Guard reached the practice football field, they were on the defensive and had every reason to be concerned for their own welfare .... The circumstances present at that time indicate that 74 men surrounded by several hundred hostile rioters were forced to retreat back up the hill toward Taylor Hall under a constant barrage of rocks and other flying objects, accompanied by a constant flow of obscenities and chants such as 'Kill, Kill, Kill.' Photographic evidence has established, beyond any doubt, that as the National Guardsmen approached the top of the hill adjacent to Taylor Hall, a large segment of the crowd surged up the hill, led by smaller groups of agitators approaching to within short distances of the rear ranks of the Guardsmen.

"The testimony of the students and Guardsmen is clear that several members of the Guard were knocked to the ground or to their knees by the force of the objects thrown at them. ..."

MUCH MORE AT LINK:

http://25thaviation.org/facts/id960.htm