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To: Berlin_Freeper
...from the notable lack of an on-topic-response to my original reply to you.

I decided a long time ago that any post to me that begins with a personal attack, as yours did Berlin Freeper --"Actually, you are the idiots.." etc, etc -- doesn't deserve a reply from me, and indeed isn't even worth reading --- so don't take it personally.

Here's a metaphor for the point that I and many here have been trying to make:

One day you wake up and find you have a problem with black widow spiders (al qaeda) in your house. Indeed, these black widows can been deadly and a member of your family gets bitten and gets very sick. But instead of trying to figure out the sanest way to wipe out the spiders, in your grief, you go insane and are willing to try ANYTHING to kill the spiders. Your crazy neighbor, (Obama) who you never have much liked before, decides that the way to get rid of your spider problem is to use "a nuke"(a secret kill list). You and the whole neighborhood cheer the crazy neighbor (Obama) who just killed those spiders that killed your family member -- without realizing that he may well have killed you and everyone in the neighborhood, and made the area completely unlivable for the next century.

Either because you don't understand or don't want to --you don't see that this nuke has produced (legal and political) nuclear fallout now hanging above your head that is more likely to kill you & yours than the spiders ever were -- and, not just you, but all Americans are now in the fallout zone. You don't see that crazy neighbor (Obama) just blew up the US Constitution and a legal framework that dates all the way back to the Magna Carta (habeas corpus) to seize power that has never been granted to ANY president before him -- and for what? -- just to kill these few spiders. You don't see that by letting the crazy neighbor (Obama) become a hero for "ridding your house of spiders" means he's more likely to use nukes again, killing more people in the process of killing your spiders than the spiders alone could dream of killing.

You don't seem to be able to see any of this because you can't smell, feel or taste it yet -- but there are those of us who do see it -- and we all hope that we are very wrong about it.

I worked in Human Resources law for over thirty years -- the kind of job where you have to examine all the legal ramifications of every policy and project best and worst case scenarios. I'm telling you that this is bad, very bad -- a president who can now draw up a secret hit list that includes American citizens and they have no legal recourse, they don't even know that they are on it until they are dead. This is absolutely insane! I can't believe that anyone calling themselves a Conservative is OK with this. I don't care if this guy was the worse scum on earth and probably was -- it isn't what Obama did to him. It's what Obama can now do to anyone, anywhere, as long as he brands them "associated with terrorism".

Any "cure" that kills the patient, isn't a cure -- it's poison!

144 posted on 10/03/2011 6:38:05 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
"I decided a long time ago that any post to me that begins with a personal attack, as yours did Berlin Freeper --"Actually, you are the idiots.." etc, etc -- doesn't deserve a reply from me, and indeed isn't even worth reading --- so don't take it personally."

But you did reply with post #135: "Wow, didn’t realize that your name was “Jim Robinson”.

And you continued to reply with another post, #139.

Now you suddenly accuse me of a personal attack. Why didn't you mention a personal attack before?

Replying twice with the complaint that I am not Jim Robinson and now saying I made a personal attack, are two very different things. If you are going to tell a lie Bokababe, then at least don't be so easily caught up in it. LoL!

As for my supposed personal attack on you, that is very misleading considering you referred to yourself as an idiot:

“I know that you don’t like Ron Paul and are pretty iffy about most libertarians, but we are the idiots who throw ourselves on political grenades defending the Constitution, even when it is unpopular, so that the rest of us don’t have to throw ourselves on real ones.”

You are the one that should not take it personally, when you call yourself an idiot and get a response on the real reason you are being an idiot:

"Actually, you are the idiots making it more possible for mass murderers who openly declare war on the US to kill my family in the largest numbers possible..."

Your metaphor about nuking spiders is nothing but Crazy BS - LoL!

Here is something real, meaningful and worthy of the time to read it:

The US Congress has specifically authorized and funded military force against Al Qaeda

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

You should now be able to see that it is Congress that actually ordered this, and is far from a case of Obama alone tossing nukes at spiders.

When a US citizen gets killed by the US while the connections to 9/11 and the planning of future mass murdering terror attacks are at the least -disputable- then go ahead and pitch your bitch.

To jump off the handle in this case is to side with the Terrorists, who are in the business of denying all the rest of us OUR Constitutional rights while they think they can hide in some far away sh*thole corner of the world.

You Liberaltarians are a funny funny bunch. You tried to portray yourself to Jim Robinson as some kind of hero of the Constitution: ...but we are the idiots who throw ourselves on political grenades defending the Constitution..."

Then you instantly erected a hurdle to my exercise of Free Speech: "Wow, didn’t realize that your name was “Jim Robinson”.

You invent a threat of "grenades" while protecting mass murdering Terrorists who are literally in the business of grenades and bombs and anything else they can mass murder us with.

And you think we should thank you for it and hail you as a hero, while you try to put our lives, our families and our country at real dangerous risk. Real dangerous risk that is in contrast to your imagined one.

147 posted on 10/03/2011 10:22:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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