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This is one sad thread, and a constant reminder why this conservative and longtime member spends very little time posting here. Ron Paul may be an idiot, and indeed I have NEVER supported him. However, for anyone who purports to be a Conservative to take the position that a US Citizen by birth can have all of his or her rights waived or extinguished without due process, is ignorant. Moreover, to hide behind the Constitution, as many often do for the arguments they like, and then dump on it for an outcome they really want — that my friends is what liberals do. It's the difference between intellectual honesty and base, ignorant, reactionarism. I am happy this enemy of America is dead, I but I take no pleasure in the shredding of the Constitution that took place to make it happen.