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NASA Advances Evaluation of Piantelli’s LENR Research
New Energy Times ^ | Sept 28 2011 | Steven Krivit

Posted on 09/28/2011 7:18:22 PM PDT by Kevmo

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1 posted on 09/28/2011 7:18:31 PM PDT by Kevmo
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2 posted on 09/28/2011 7:19:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: sbkrivit

The author is a freeper, although he’s being overly vague. Here’s his standard answer to the questions posted on his blog:

I will be permitted by agreements I made with sources to tell more of the story in several months from now.

SBK


3 posted on 09/28/2011 7:21:21 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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Andrea Rossi Gives Firm Date for First Public E-Cat Test and Results

http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/09/andrea-rossi-gives-firm-date-for-first-public-e-cat-test-and-results/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed

Featured, October E-Cat Demonstration by admin
We’re just a few short days away from October 2011 — a month that E-Cat followers have been awaiting with eager anticipation. According to Andrea Rossi, things are progressing smoothly in regards to the scheduled public testing of his E-Cats and the delivery of the first 1 MW plant to the as-yet-unknown customer. Rossi has started to provide some idea of what to expect in October regarding his power plant:
“By half October we will explain exactly what follows:
1- where the 1 MW plant will be tested
2- all the (not confidential) characteristics of the 1MW plant (the complementary part is more reactors, of a new type that in the meantime we have developed)
3- possibly, who is the Customer, if the Customer will allow us to communicate his name.”
He has also provided information about the testing of a single E-Cat unit that will start shortly in Uppsala, Sweden. He says that selected scientists from various countries have been invited to attend this testing, along with selected scientific journalists (but doesn’t mention who has accepted invitations).
Rossi stated, “On the 7th you should find in the net the report and video of the test of October 6th regarding one cluster of the modules of the 1 MW plant.”
It appears that this test on October 6th is an important part of the unveiling of the E-Cat. It might actually be a more useful demonstration of his invention than the 1 MW plant testing, since those involved in the test will be able to focus their attention on one unit, rather than a multi E-Cat power plant. At any rate, we now have a date to circle on our calendars, and we should soon find out if this event has been worth the wait!
Frank Acland


4 posted on 09/28/2011 7:25:01 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

TRANSLATION: Next Thursday undt Friday


5 posted on 09/28/2011 7:33:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kevmo

All this tech has to do is produce enough heat for steam at a net cost of generation that equals at least coal and even better fission. If we can do that at any feasible scale we are in business.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 7:55:07 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Kevmo

Now no customer name, what a scam....October is now meaningless.....fraud


7 posted on 09/28/2011 8:17:15 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Kevmo
I will be permitted by agreements I made with sources to tell more of the story in several months from now.

Should I assume those are the same unnamed sources used for the above article?

8 posted on 09/28/2011 8:27:52 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62



Your result for The Which Stupid Creature Are You Test...

You are a Seagull

You scored extremely high on opinionation, very low on knowledge, very low on usefulness, and very high on loudness factor.

You are a Seagull... which makes you annoying as all hell. On the bright side you get to eat plenty of chips... just avoid the chip with the asprin inside, cause apparently you can neither burp or fart.

Take The Which Stupid Creature Are You Test at HelloQuizzy







9 posted on 09/28/2011 9:48:44 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

The gullible calling others “gulls” (whatever that means) is just a petty intimidation tactic and it doesn’t work.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 10:09:59 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Your result for The *** GULLIBLE CHUMP *** Test...

Paranoid Cynic

It's a Miracle! You Scored

For Shame. Looks like you're off your meds you paranoid freak! Get back on the anti-psychotics STAT! Actually, I shouldn't be quite so critical of you. You're never taken in by any con-man, spoof, or gimmic. Anytime you're confronted with a gimmic or bunk ass idea...you automatically assume it's a rip off. You're every salemans worst nightmare! There's a good chance that you've had first-hand experience ripping people off or scamming. Ever heard the phrase "can't play a player"? Of course you can spot the game, you wrote it! You think very carefully before making any decision. How perfectly clever. You usually make wise choices and have few regrets when it comes to buying or giving. If there were more people like you, there wouldn't be as many people ou there trying to fuck people over. You make the hustlers feel like the idots. You believe that if it sounds too good to be true, then it definitely is. With an evil laugh and an extended middle finger... you stroll away from the things that just seem too good. You're skeptical, cynical, untrusting, and not easily hyped. Chances are that you're pretty stingy with your cash too. You mull over even small decisions for hours or days. You probably get great bargains on whatever you buy. You can be a real asshole. Loosen up from time to time, no need to always be so an anal-retentive. You can afford to be a little understanding to someone asking a favor of you. Take time to listen if you think a person is probably sincere. If it turns out to be a rip-off afterall, you're sure to spot it before you're completely taken in. Congrats on not being a chump. Keep in mind though, that you may actually be cheating yourself out of some legitimate oppurtunities.

Take The *** GULLIBLE CHUMP *** Test at HelloQuizzy

11 posted on 09/28/2011 10:36:05 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

With pictures even. Yippeeeeeee! I liked the ones of the Rossi Atomic Powered Water Heater too.


12 posted on 09/29/2011 12:33:17 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: dila813
"Now no customer name, what a scam....October is now meaningless.....fraud"

The customer's name is completely irrelevant. The ONLY thing that matters is the data from the tests.

13 posted on 09/29/2011 3:46:46 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
The customer's name is completely irrelevant. The ONLY thing that matters is the data from the tests.

No, the credibility of the data recorder is more important than the data, for without credibility the data has no value. This is why it would be nice to have a customer with some stature, who would not want their company's name associated with a fiasco.

For example, if NYC's Con Edison came out with a statement "We have been using an E-cat system in our metropolitan steam heating plant for the last few months, and can attest that the device produces net energy as stated, and generates energy at profitable levels", then things would be settled as far as public opinion was concerned, without regard to the statements of anybody else.

14 posted on 09/29/2011 5:27:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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"No, the credibility of the data recorder is more important than the data, for without credibility the data has no value. This is why it would be nice to have a customer with some stature, who would not want their company's name associated with a fiasco."

I repeat. The customer's name is irrelevant. What "is" relevant are the names and qualifications of the people doing the testing, the exact nature of the test, and the data therefrom.

And as near as I can tell from post #4, the customer's name and the location of the 1MW test will POSSIBLY be revealed on 6 October (when the single E-Cat test will be done at U. of Upsala).

This does NOT rule out the possibility that the customer's name will be revealed on the date of the test of the 1MW unit later in the month, and, in fact will almost certainly take place then. Getting the customer's name a couple of weeks early is "gravy".

15 posted on 09/29/2011 6:45:23 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Are you kidding?

The only way any of this testing is meaningful if the customer is a paying one, we know who it is, and the customer takes delivery of the 1MN to test it themselves totally independent of Rossi.

This is what he promised, and he is doing a classic con artist bait and switch.

Now we will only have his word ....... which is absolutely worthless based on his past history of lies and scams ripping off millions.

I knew he was a con artist, I knew he was going to pull something.....not even going to put on a good show...only trying to miss-direct and obfuscate.


16 posted on 09/29/2011 7:31:43 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Wonder Warthog

B - A - L - O - N - E - Y

This test is supposed to be a fully running commercial plant which means it has to be hooked up as if it is going to supply power to actual customers.

This test has to have generators and actual power generation to count.

This is what happens when a product is delivered to a paying customer for evaluation, the customer actually hooks it up and simulates the use of the product in this application.

Who ever is feeding you this junk has no idea how a new product is delivered to a customer and tested .... it doesn’t matter what product is. They are all tested using the same process.


17 posted on 09/29/2011 7:37:57 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Kevmo

Kevmo, you said the guy would deliver in October and we would all know without a doubt this is legit.

We don’t, you were wrong.......we still say it is a scam, more so than ever.

This certainly didn’t live up to your expectation of proving you right and us wrong.

On that score, you have FAILED. Also, if you had any idea that Rossi was going to pull this, you wouldn’t have had this high of expectation of being proven right.

YOU GOT FOOLED< ADMIT IT


18 posted on 09/29/2011 7:42:45 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
"Are you kidding?"

No, I am not "kidding".

"The only way any of this testing is meaningful if the customer is a paying one, we know who it is, and the customer takes delivery of the 1MN to test it themselves totally independent of Rossi."

The Oct. 6 test is not the promised 1MW plant/test. That is, to the best that I can tell from Rossi's comment, "on" exactly as promised.

And YOU don't get to decide the conditions to determine if the testing is "meaningful" for anyone other than yourself.

19 posted on 09/29/2011 1:26:35 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: dila813
"This test is supposed to be a fully running commercial plant which means it has to be hooked up as if it is going to supply power to actual customers. This test has to have generators and actual power generation to count."

Sorry, but that scenario is not, and never has been the plan for the 1MW test. The 1MW system is to provide HEAT only, not electricity. Rossi has been clear on that from day 1. Generation of electricity is, according to Rossi, six months or so away.

"This is what happens when a product is delivered to a paying customer for evaluation, the customer actually hooks it up and simulates the use of the product in this application."

And since we don't currently know either the customer or the application, we have no way to tell if the above is not the case.

20 posted on 09/29/2011 1:33:22 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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