Posted on 09/24/2011 12:42:07 PM PDT by Talkradio03
At the Republican Presidential Straw Poll Event being held today in Orlando, Florida. Gingrich talked (this afternoon)about Republican Vice Presidential candidates, he says he's known Rubio long before he became Florida Speaker of the House and he would be on the short-list for all of our candidates, including his. Video
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The thing is, there is no precedent, regardless of what the birthers will tell you. They cite an old State Supreme court decision that parsed definitions, but the fact is state courts are leagally "inferior" to Federal courts as are lower courts to SCOTUS, so ther is not precedent to follow (or overturn). Unless somebody can cite a SCOTUS decision, then it's all meaningless. Experience shows that they aren't even going to touch the issue, and I suspect if they did they would rule that anyone born a citizen is a natural born citizen.
Both parents born in Cuba one in ‘27 other in ‘31. Father was naturalized citizen long after Marco’s birth. Marco Rubio is a NATIVE BORN CITIZEN...to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN...both parents at the time of his birth must be US Citizens. HE DOES NOT QUALIFY.
I had also thought he was brilliant. Then, following some great articles on energy and particularly geothermal energy, he sat on a couch with Pelosi and pontificated about the anthropogenic vector of global warming. Then, he supported Dede Scozzafava in NY’s 23rd district. Later yet, he said that he had been wrong and had known nothing of Scozzafava at the time of his endorsement of her. That he could say that leads me to believe that he could say anything. This is not at odds with this ability to foresee things or his deep knowledge about lots of arguments, but to me, it’s a deal-breaker.
I know Newt’s got baggage but I still like him....
Marco Rubio was born in the United States but neither of his parents were citizens at his birth....both were still technically Cuban citizens but residing in the US.
Please cite the court case that requires someone to have two citizen parents in order to be eligible to be President or Vice-President. Thank you.
That’s all simply your opinion. There is no precedent, since SCOTUS hasn’t ruled, and the Consitution doesn’t define “natural born citizen”. IMHO SCOTUS would go with the simplest definition, that anyone born a citizen is a “natural born citizen”, if they ever even agreed to hear it. Unless there was some evidence that the person was not a citizen at birth, they likely would just decide to not hear it and allow him to assume office.
You might add that they have to be SCOTUS cases. State and lower federal courts are not precedent for SCOTUS.
Then expect that a baby born here in the U.S. while his foreign parents were here visiting on vacation will return, spend the required 14 years in the U.S., and then become president of the United States of America.
Natural born citizenship as defined by Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the Constitution and the Supreme Court binding precedent in Minor vs. Happersett (1874), that is, born a US citizen of US citizen parents at the time of birth.
And I have many other articles which explain NBC.
You are correct, but you may as well be telling FReepers that Jesus didn’t die for their sins. Good luck with that...
Where does native born appear in the Constitution?
Does the natural born clause applied to the VP? I thought it only applied to POTUS.
Rubio was born a US citizen, but unfortunately, he is not a “natural born citizen” who is Constitutionally eligible to ever run for POTUS.
I’m defining “natural born citizenship” as being born in the USA to two American citizens. Here is a good article explaining that precedent, which is still in effect.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/40510.
Rubio’s parents were not both US citizens at his birth. (Nor were Obama’s.)
So, I think Rubio could be VP, but not POTUS.
Being born in the U.S. makes one a U.S. citizen, but not necessarily a natural born citizen, which requires US citizen parents at the time of birth. The Founding Fathers specifically put that requirement in the Constitution to prevent someone having dual allegiance from becoming President.
Marco Rubio was born in the US, which makes him a US citizen. His parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth. Therefore, Marco Rubio is not a natural born citizen and not eligible for the office of President or Vice President.
Although not defined in the Constitution, Article II, Section I, Clause 5 specifically requires, not just citizenship, but natural born citizenship.
The Supreme Court binding precedent in Minor vs. Happersett (1874) provides the Constitutional definition of natural born citizenship.
Obama’s ineligibility: Marco Rubio can’t be President or Vice President
Why would you are anyone else want to go against the Founders intent. I like Marco Rubio but I am not willing to go with him against the constitution. This is what the libtards want and need us to do have someone like Marco Rubio that isn't constitutionally qualified to be VP or President.
The Supreme Court binding precedent in Minor vs. Happersett (1874) provides the Constitutional definition of natural born citizenship.
Put your thinking cap on: VP can easily become president therefore of course the VP has to qualify exactly the same as the qualifications for president. Marco Rubio is legally qualified to be a senator but not VP.
Illegal alien protectors, shamnesty, immigration "normalization" proponents are an anathema to conservatism, period!!
It took less than 15minutes for the nutcase birthers to come out of the woodwork.
Minor vs. Happersett
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.
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