Posted on 09/23/2011 5:13:57 PM PDT by SideoutFred
Dennis thinks he might be toast based on his immigration answer last night.
(Excerpt) Read more at dennismillerradio.com ...
As far as I am concerned Perry jumped the shark, screwed the pooch simultaneously... Like illegal aliens ? ILLEGAL ALIENS= law breaking not supposed to be in this country aliens ? Why should I give them welfare, free rent, tuition or any thing else ???? I HAVE NO HEART... Send them home, build a fence, a wall, a moat, Death penalty for employers... whatever.. I want my country back and He_ _ no I won’t press 1 for english
>>> And how many guest workers do we need when 25 million Americans are looking for full time employment? >>>
You are joking, right? 25 million looking for employment so hard that they’re spending their time lobbying for 99 weeks of unemployment.
“I cannot wait to see the countryside filled with white guys and black guys mowing lawns and so on.”
There are plenty of them doing just that in my area.
Cut off the 99-week unemployment benefits and you might see more.
Some people might even pick lettuce if their EBT cards didn’t get reloaded every month.
I'll ask you the same question you asked meet the new boss, "Where on earth have you been"?" Not alive when we had the guest worker program before were you, I will bet you are young, maybe in your 30s but probably younger. I remember the brassero program, which was a guest worker program such as you are pushing, most of the illegals that received amnesty back in the day were left overs from that program. They don't go home, they stay here, they also drive down the wages for citizens and legal residents because they work under the table, just as the illegals do today. There would be no change, except that we would not be able to deport them.
Guest worker programs don't work, they've been tried and they failed.
When the financial situation finally implodes you wont have to worry about the borders. People will be leaving rather than coming to the USA.
Sure...IRCOT v. Texas
4. In violation of federal law, more than 12,000 illegal aliens attending Texas colleges and universities are classified as residents and allowed to pay in-state tuition and/or receive state financial aid. For example, illegal aliens attending community colleges in Harris County are paying resident tuition and receiving grants under the Texas Educational Opportunity Grant Program.
5. A national treatise states:
[Federal law] does, however, permit states to make undocumented aliens eligible for postsecondary benefits (and other state and local benefits) for which they are otherwise ineligible under Section 1621(a), but only if states do so “through the enactment of a state law after August 22, 1996, which affirmatively provides for such eligibility” (8 U.S.C. § 1621(d)). Another provision of [federal law] limits this state authority, specifically with respect to “postsecondary education benefit(s),” by providing that states may not provide greater benefits to undocumented aliens than it provides to United States citizens who are not residents of the state (8 U.S.C. § 1623).
THE LAW OF HIGHER EDUCATION, Vol. I at 840 (2006).
6. Under the general rule stated in title 8 U.S.C. section 1621(a), an illegal alien “is not eligible for” postsecondary education benefits such as resident tuition and state financial aid.
7. Under Texas law, an illegal alien is eligible for resident tuition and state financial aid. See, e.g., OVERVIEW: Residency and In-State Tuition (Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board 09/2008) (“House Bill 1403 granted certain non-immigrant students, including undocumented students, access to in-state tuition rates at Texas public institutions of higher education and state financial aid.”).
8. However, the Texas Legislature has never affirmatively provided for such eligibility through the enactment of a state law.
9. No Texas statute enacted before or after August 22, 1996 specifies that an illegal alien, illegal immigrant, undocumented alien, undocumented immigrant, or “alien who is not lawfully present in the United States” is eligible for resident tuition or state financial aid.
10. Federal law forces a state that wants to provide post- secondary education benefits to illegal aliens to expressly state that intent in a statute. Doing so places the public on actual notice that their tax dollars are being used to support illegal aliens. It is a matter of democratic accountability, forcing state elected officials to take public responsibility for their actions.
11. Under the Supremacy Clause, federal law prevails over state law. Therefore, in Texas, an illegal alien is not eligible for discounted in-state tuition or any form of state student financial aid. Cf. Tex. Att’y Gen. Op. No. JC-0394 (2001) at 8 (concluding that title 8 U.S.C. § 1621 “prohibits the Harris County Hospital District from providing free or discounted nonemergency health care to undocumented aliens, even if they reside within the district’s boundaries”).
12. In Texas, an illegal alien is eligible on the basis of residence within the state for certain postsecondary education benefits (e.g., to be eligible for a TEXAS grant, an illegal alien must have “maintained a residence continuously in this state for [] the 12 months preceding the census date of the academic semester in which the person enrolls in an institution”).
13. However, a citizen or national of the United States is not eligible for those same postsecondary education benefits without regard to whether he or she is a Texas resident (e.g., a citizen of the United States who resided in Oklahoma immediately prior to enrolling in a Texas college or university is not eligible for a TEXAS grant).
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14. In enacting title 8 U.S.C. section 1623, which is entitled “Limitation on eligibility for preferential treatment of aliens not lawfully present on basis of residence for higher education benefits,” Congress sought to prohibit a state acting under title 8 U.S.C. section 1621(d) from being more generous to illegal aliens who reside in the state than it is to United States citizens and nationals who do not reside in the state with regard to the provision of postsecondary education benefits.
15. Texas law, which allows illegal aliens to qualify as Texas residents for purposes of tuition and financial aid but denies resident tuition and state financial aid to nonresident students, conflicts with both the plain language and the stated purpose of title 8 U.S.C. section 1623. Therefore, the provisions of Texas law that allow an illegal alien to qualify as a Texas resident for purposes of discounted in-state tuition and state student financial aid are preempted, void, and of no effect.
16. In its suit, IRCOT seeks an order enjoining the defendants from making, approving, or forwarding a monetary grant to an illegal alien under the Texas Educational Opportunity Grant Program, the Toward Excellence, Access, & Success Grant Program, or the Tuition Equalization Grant Program.
17. Texas is clearly violating federal law. However, to ensure success, IRCOT needs two types of assistance. First, IRCOT needs one or more persons who pay the state business tax to become members of the organization. This will solidify IRCOT’s standing to bring suit. Second, IRCOT needs financial contributions to pay for formal discovery. Both access to the relevant government documents and depositions of the important government actors are necessary to properly support IRCOT’s motion for summary judgment.
I guess it was OK for Reagan to give amnesty, but Perry, simply giving instate tuition to those who have lived here their entire lives is a no-go?
I don't like the instate tuition either; and I am a Texas taxpayer. But beyond this, Perry is for enforcing the law.
All recent Presidents have had to deal with the current reality, and NO president has dealt with the reality. Do we want to throw Perry under the bus for being as all presidents have been?
So let's go for Romney now, and instead of paying tuition for illegals, we can pay for medical care for every dead-beat in the USA.
AND he has consistently said we need to seal the border and that he is AGAINST illegal immigration.
>>> .... they also drive down the wages for citizens and legal residents because they work under the table. >>>
I’ve hired thousands of laborers over the past 22 years, and that is not at all consistent with my experience. In fact, country boy whites and inner city blacks are far more likely to ask to be paid under the table than legal or illegal hispanics.
How many laborers have you hired?
We already have a moat full of alligators.
It’s called the Rio Grande.
Yep, Obama goes, Romney can be the hatchet man.
I may not always be polite but I do try to be reasonable.
We do have a serious problem with the poor quality of certain segments of American workers. This has to do primarily with the breakdown of the family, crappy schools, liberal control over curriculum and the popular culture and other factors. We subsidize the growth of the dysfunctional underclass and then are surprised when there are so many people in prison and so many people out of prison who make lousy employees.
But even here, illegal immigration and the bias in our legal immigration against high-skilled high IQ immigrants hurts us tremendously. Large swaths of immigrant neighborhoods in southern California are characterized by astronomical drop-out rates, 50+% illegitimacy, control by ethnic street gangs and drug dealers and other social problems which doesn’t do much to generate high quality workers for the “knowledge economy” the elites believe they are creating.
You are right about the 99 week benefit thing. Its definitely a factor. And an awful economy will be a factor too. I won’t argue that at all. And I won’t argue with what you see in your area.
However, I am still tied to the outside maintenance industry (though I no longer directly employ any labor) - and there is still virtually zero interest in this work among any type of non hispanic population.
But I think the evidence is pretty clear that in a good economy, and I hope we’ll have another good one at some point, the demand curve exceeds our labor supply.
I'm seeing more in mine, as well. And I live in CA.
Those who say Americans think they are above that kind of work p*ss me off to no end. We have volunteers dying in hellholes in the ME for minimum wage. F*** that argument.
I like Rick, but he lost by double-digits to Bob Casey, the second stupidest person in the U.S. Senate. He couldn't carry Pennsylvania, but can beat Obama? Doesn't sound likely.
“Despite the economic downturn, the U.S. continues to bring in 125,000 new, legal foreign workers A MONTH. This includes new permanent residents (Green Cards) and long-term temporary visas and others who are authorized to take a job. This makes no sense.”
Exactly.
It’s not just illegal immigration; our legal immigration policy is broken too. We’re being flooded by both. And the immigrants coming in, both illegal and legal, are not top-heavy on the rocket scientist side. We’re importing the third world while wringing our hands that we’re falling behind other industrialized countries.
We have to stop illegal immigration and drastically reduce legal immigration, and choose carefully the types of persons we want to invite into our house.
Despite your racist post, I don’t believe you.
Americans are honest compared to criminal illegals
and the criminals that hire them.
If I'm to assume your kid goes where you go, why can't you assume these kids are here because of their parents.
Do you rally think the illegal parents are moving to Texas at least 3 years before their kids graduate because of instate tuition? ROFLOL!
An "incentive" that 99% probably have never heard of! Get real!!!!
After Jorge Busho prostituted himself to the open borders crowd (and his liberal wife) I decided to not vote the "lesser of two evils" anymore.
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