Carolyn and Ron Agnew, center, of Pflugerville, wait for Governor Rick Perry's arrival during the Rick Perry Welcome Home Rally at Abel's on the Lake in Austin on Saturday, August 20, 2011. LISA KRANTZ/lkrantz@express-news.net
If we give people benefits even though they are here illegally, no amount of "boots on the ground" or anything else is going to keep them from coming. Ranger squads are nice, but if Rick Perry isn't willing to cut off the benefits that drive illegal immigration, illegal immigration isn't going to stop. If we are going to train them to succeed in our system in addition to allowing them to stay, even more will come. If Rick Perry doesn't how incentives work, he's not fit to president.
These debates keep showing that Rick Perry is the real flip-flopper in this race. Even last night, he pulled another flip-flop. He's said many times that he opposed the Arizona immigration law. He's finally figuring out that he's out of step with the GOP and even the Tea Party on this issue. Last night, he bragged that he joined Arizona's suit against the federal government around that law. I guess he was against the law before he was for it. John Kerry could pretend that this sort of waffle was a "nuance." Rick Perry may not know what a nuance is and probably couldn't pronounce the word if he did.
The truth didn't find a voice in Rick Perry, and I hope that the truth is never reduced to having to settle for such a stuttering, fumbling voice.
Nice try, but Rick Perry is TPINO/CINO, Tea Party in Name Only/Conservative in Name Only.
Fantastic write up!!!!!!! Thank you!!
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You agree with Perry that children of illegal aliens should be given preferential treatment over legal American citizens.
You also agree that people who disagree are heartless?
You are a complete disgrace. I am amazed Jim lets you stay on this CONSERVATIVE forum.
Great points! Thank you for taking the time to clarify the things you did.
I think many people seem to think the states can just deport these illegal folk and fault them when they don’t, not realizing there is absolutely no legal or Constitutional authority given to states to deport. This is a situation we have had FORCED upon our states, Texas specifically mentioned here, because we have not had federal leadership who has put resources towards securing our border and doing something about the illegal immigrants who have waltzed on in here these last twenty years or so.
It’s good to make sure people are aware this situation has been forced upon us and that this has not been an issue of simply opening the gates and saying “come on in, amigo”.
On the same hand, some believe these folk will just deport themselves if we make it hard on them.
Well, maybe some will, but I suspect most will not go back to Mexico, especially since many MANY of the people we are talking about have been here in Texas for 10, 15, 20 years of so, have friends and family here (illegal AND legal), and who have roots here. They have assimilated into our society (even though it WAS under the radar), but they have assimilated into our world none the less.
For those people, they have no other home. For them, America is their world; and those folk wouldn’t move any more than you or I would!
I don’t think people across the country realize how ingrained some of those people are!
Using tactics to put them into the ground won’t serve to get most of those people back to Mexico. Some will self deport. Others will stay under the radar will and live with friends and family here anyway, regardless. Others, I believe, would do whatever they had to do to survive anyway, prostitution perhaps, selling drugs maybe, whatever one needs to do to survive in the only home many of them know.
I am not completely FOR the DREAM Act, but I am not convinced it is completely the wrong thing either.
I think it is something that Texas has done to ensure the safekeeping of our communities, of communities filled with official American citizens who live among these people we are talking about, people that look and act just like us most of the time now even.
I mentioned this on another thread but will note it here too. For me, it’s not a HEART issue. It’s a BRAIN issue. It’s one part of one solution to dealing with this mess our federal government has handed to us.
And just for the record, I’m not for letting illegals in either. I like that Rick Perry has gone to Israel on various occasions to talk with them and to form his vision for border security from the Israelis. The way I see it, if Israel can protect their borders being surrounded on all sides by enemies who want to get them off the face of the earth, then why shouldn’t we be considering their form of border security as well here? That’s why I like Rick Perry’s vision for Israeli-style border security on our US borders.
Then with a federal administration that upholds it Constitutional responsibility to protect our country, we should be fine keeping illegals at bay.
Those people who are here though, especially those who know no other home but the home they have here? It seems like Rick Santorum’s thoughts on the “Don’t ask Don’t tell” question from the debate last night seems to be an appropriate place from which to start asking questions as to what should be done with them - Should we put our rules BACK into place but not hold the people that were beneficiaries of our federal government’s lax rules accountable for our federal government’s allowances? I don’t know that answer in my heart, but I at least think it is worth asking.
Thanks again for the info.
You’re fighting the good fight! Keep it up!
Here’s my take...
I’m not going to agree with Perry on immigration. I respect that he defends what he thinks is right, and isn’t a finger in the wind guy like Myth. I also think those who say he is for “open borders”, etc. are being simplistic. But instate tuition is a magnet, and the point about if they are here illegally how are they going to make a living with their college education is valid. If they are citizens, then it shouldn’t be an issue in the first place.
But the fact is immigration is one issue. If I made a list of say the top 10 issues, that would be one. The other nine he is great on. So maybe he gets a 90%. Nine out of 10 is still an A, or maybe a B+. It doesn’t make him an “open borders RINO” like the hysterical Perry haters would have it.
That being said he was weak in the debate, especially when he was stumbling his way through his attack on Myth. The good news is it’s not really going to matter three months from now. But I would suggest he quit trying to use pre-written “gotcha” lines, and talk straigt, which is his strong suit. And don’t call your opponents “heartless”. But hey, this process is about making them into better candidates.
Perry lost my primary vote in last nights debate.
YE-HA!
Perry supporters, be set free!
Make SURE you watch Rick Perry’s speech (given just moments ago) at CPAC Florida!
Link at the end.
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But before you watch that speech, do take one moment to prepare yourself by reading these tweets.
CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann
Perry all smiles and thumbs up as he takes the stage at CPAC. Doesn’t look like a guy who woke up to a lot of negative headlines this AM
StevenErtelt Steven Ertelt
Perry already working on putting poor debate behind him with very well received CPAC speech, get’s standing ovation.
rodomila Rod Milani
#CPACFL Perry recovers nicely with his speech at CPAC.
DanRiehl
RT @PeterHambyCNN: sum1 forgot 2 tell CPAC crowd that Perry had a bad debate. Standing O as he wraps speech w/ call 2 “get Washington out of the way!”
jensoft1 Stewart Leicester
Perry: We Don’t Need to Elect the ‘Smoothest Debater’: Orlando, Fla. — In his CPAC speech today, Rick Perry came... bit.ly/pOssUm
This is the Rick that we are rooting for!!!
http://cpac.tmadirect.net/video/rick_perry_cpac_florida_2011
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SEE NEWLY UPLOADED RICK PERRY SPEECH FROM CPAC FLORIDA (CAPTURED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO!)
http://cpac.tmadirect.net/video/rick_perry_cpac_florida_2011
Ping!
Perry forever lost my vote with this stupid stance. He is dead to me now.