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The Truth Found a Voice in Rick Perry
September 23, 2011 | Vanity

Posted on 09/23/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

THE TRUTH FOUND A VOICE IN RICK PERRY

FoxNews-Google GOP Primary Debate [September 22, 2011] Gov. Rick Perry: [snip] ………If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought there, through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart. We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature, when this issue came up -- only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it greatly. [end] Texas Gov. Rick Perry responding to a question by Chris Wallace

Gov. Rick Perry has stated (for years) that the U.S. border with Mexico must be sealed. He has requested assistance (many people on the ground and drones in the air for Intel – he has studied how this is done in Israel). As Governor of Texas, he has been rebuked in person by the current president, who refuses his pleas for the Federal government to do its duty and provide the necessary means by which to seal our country’s international border with Mexico. The governor’s written requests go unheeded.

Texas spends hundreds of millions of dollars of state money to defend its border with Mexico. An elite Texas Ranger unit, put together by Perry, is working to hold the line on our border. Rick Perry has stated that fences do work in urban areas but are not effective, let alone feasible, along the 2000 mile Mexico - U.S. border (1200 miles in Texas alone). The Federal government ignores this problem, while at the same time blaming and punishing border governors when they try to protect their states. People in other states, without understanding the facts, blame border governors when this federally manufactured problem spreads into their states.

President Obama believes security is just fine on the border (better in fact than before he took office) and frankly, he’s following past examples where foreigners are allowed to cross into the U.S., where those with work visas are allowed to slip into U.S. society without any earnest, federal or court action to prevent it, where states are not allowed to ask children their legal status before attending school, where healthcare is accessible to everyone and where federal “social justice” programs have been put into place, thus beginning the progressive process of teaching new generations that it is “normal” to be dependent on government largess. [funded by those “more fortunate” Americans]

Then, periodically, another couple of generations are proclaimed by the federal government to be in the U.S. legally, by magnanimously proclaiming, “You can come out of the dark now and stay.” [sign up here for your Democratic Party voter card]

Rick Perry, as president, wants to finally seal the border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs – stop those vile cartels who traffic in human beings and drugs, and secure a dangerous, porous entry used by terrorists seeking to destroy America. The current administration is willfully enabling those who prefer border security remain as it is, those who characteristically (for self interest) want to avoid addressing and dealing with these problems.

Undeniably, Governor Perry is the GOP candidate most familiar with this issue and the problems associated with it. Texas has a long and rich history with Mexico. Mexico is the number one trading partner with America. Many U.S. citizens have Mexican ancestors who are proud Texans and Americans, many who have, are, and are willing to fight for America. Hispanics are the largest minority living in the United States. They have a high birth rate and are a major minority voting demographic. This didn’t happen because Texas shares over 1200 miles of international border with Mexico. The current magnitude of the problem, along with the number of the illegals in Texas and the United States, has everything to do with historic and current Federal inaction.

The Federal government looks to the states and tells them to “deal with it.” So state governments and their citizens have to “deal with” crime and a fast growing, uneducated population that puts a huge strain on state and federal resources. The resulting fall out for state government is, “you’re damned if you do and "you’re damned if you don’t." Gov. Perry and the Texas Legislature have accepted the criticism for taking the “damned if we do” path because they’re “dealing with it” first hand and Texans understand that "we're damned if we don't." These children are here, their potential and future has been put on our watch -- it is a practical and human decision and as Rick Perry said, “You don’t have a heart if you don’t.”

In 2001 the Texas Legislature voted in an Act (signed by Gov. Rick Perry) allowing children brought to the U.S. illegally (basically stateless people) by their parents, who complete 3 years of high school in Texas (graduate and want to attend college) to apply for U.S. citizenship and pay instate tuition. Their “anchor baby” siblings have this right by virtue of the 14th Amendment (that gave citizenship to children of slaves – slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment). If the country wants to abolish “anchor babies,” a majority of states need to vote for a change to the U.S. Constitution. The Texas education program is called the Texas Dream Act. The Texas Dream Act is not the same as the rejected Federal Dream Act proposed by the U.S. Senate because that federal legislation in totality and reality was an immigration bill.

The purpose of the Texas Dream Act is to have successful, educated citizens contributing toward a strong economy -- not unemployed or underemployed school dropouts who place a huge drain on our system [and begin generational poverty in their communities]. As past Federal actions have repeatedly shown Texas, illegal immigrants most likely will be allowed to stay. So the smart thing to do is allow them to pay instate tuition and be contributing citizens versus benefits receiving citizens. Gov. Mitt Romney does not agree with this and in fact rejected this approach in Massachusetts.

The truth found a voice in Rick Perry. Gov. Perry has said and believes that Conservative Ascendancy is how we will bring America back from the brink. Besides getting Americans working again we need to show them the value of conservatism and how those values encourage and support strong families and a free country.

Last night former Gov. Mitt Romney sounded like a “Snidley Whiplash-Simon Legree” character, while Gov. Rick Perry was “Dudley do right” looking after “Little Orphan Annie.” How do you think Barack Obama will (or won't) play these sound bites in his re-election bid for 4 more years?

Mitt Romney wants the status quo, which continues to feed the pipeline of generational, programmed victims -- driving trapped and dependent people into the arms of the growing army of the Democratic “fight for social justice” Party. Rick Perry wants to change the status quo and bring more voters into freedom – businesses owners, entrepreneurs eager to join the Republican Conservative Ascendancy Party – no matter what their last name or color, or gender or faith. And the border must be sealed first in order to do this.

Do the math. Rush Limbaugh has. Rush, like Gov. Perry, wants everyone to succeed (not secede). Rush, like Rick Perry, knows we’re at the crossroads that will decided the future path of the United States (and the world). Will it be Perpetual Dependency or Conservative Ascendancy? Democratic Party leaders are herding us into warring camps hoping to take us on the road to socialism. The states must take back power from the Federal government and get this country back on the road to free market capitalism.

This isn’t a Sound Bite issue.

“Nice try” Mitt.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; economy; gardasil; illegals; perry; perry2012
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To: goat granny

I’m not into mannerisms, facial expressions or body language. I shouldn’t be because I’m not schooled in them. I’m simply in to a strong leader with a commanding presence, who’s for America and has the experience and will to get us through our problems. So far, I’m unimpressed with the team we have. Herman Cain comes closest to what I want, but I’m still not completely sold.


241 posted on 09/23/2011 4:53:34 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: bcsco
For me also Cain is so far the one I would vote for in the primary and presidential election....had no opinion on Perry until last night, don't like Romney, he also puts me off with his presents. I would like to see and hear more from Cain. I said in another thread that he seems to be the only one I'd like to sit down with, talk and have a cup of coffee...It wouldn't be boring and he has a sincere way about him....its still a long way off...
242 posted on 09/23/2011 5:02:55 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: kabar
Fences are force multipliers.

Who gets the Rio Grande river? The USA or Mexico? Or do you run the fence down the middle of the river?

243 posted on 09/23/2011 6:13:26 PM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Kartographer
there are a large majority of illegals who are here and don’t give a damn about the United States, there don’t wish to share out culture, our history and they could care less about anything American. They are here because their on country is corrupt to the point that the people have few freedoms and little or no chance to better themselves especially economically.

Those sentences don't work together. If they are here to better themselves because their own countries are corrupt hellholes they are going to give a damn about the US.

But let's recognize that a lot of these illegals have no character and are here to milk the cow without contributing either by criminal activity or by freeloading off of social services.

Let's agree this group should be weeded out and expelled. Why would you think kids who have graduated from an American high school and are going to college and paying for college -- remember they are not getting scholarships but are simply being given the state residential rate -- fall into this category?

244 posted on 09/23/2011 6:19:37 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: muawiyah
The whole place is a lesson in why you must have ORDERLY entry on the part of any would be group of immigrants;

Or that you don't have to put up with bad dictators.

But you are right. An open border is a very bad idea.

If you are looking for an historical example, rather than Texas, look up the Germanic tribes crossing of the Rhine in 406 AD which led to the fall of Rome.

245 posted on 09/23/2011 6:30:29 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Tribune7
Those invasions led to the RESUSCITATION of ROME, not it's extinction. That happened later in 535 AD and seems to have been a particularly nasty volcanic eruption, a comet, or just some seriously bad weather for up to 7 years!

Texas is not going to be saved with this invasion.

246 posted on 09/23/2011 6:36:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Heartless
247 posted on 09/23/2011 6:38:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Truth is the first object.' -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tribune7
You get instate you get a $24,000 per year scholarship equivalent in Texas.

Here's the deal, federal law says that you cannot give preference to illegals ~ or even legal residence for any purpose.

Perry and the Texas legislature are perfectly willing to violate federal immigration law where it serves to discourage illegal immigrants.

Pretty obvious how this is going to end ~ it will take armed force ~ probably first against Texas elements, and then Mexican elements.

248 posted on 09/23/2011 6:41:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
That happened later in 535 AD

Rome fell in 476.

249 posted on 09/23/2011 6:42:42 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: muawiyah

Texas residents pay $50 per credit hour. It’s a nice rate but it’s not a scholarship.


250 posted on 09/23/2011 6:46:45 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Tribune7
ROME was not gutted and utterly destroyed (although it seems to have been subjected to 1 or more organized sackings), and most of its population didn't die. The capital city was moved to Ravenna.

The Roman Senate continued to sit throughout the period of the Fall of Rome, so we might well refer to this as the Fall of the Western Roman Empire and the return of the Etruscan Roman Kingdom (with a probable German as King over Italy and FYR).

The Eastern Roman Empire didn't fall. Beginning in 535, though, everybody had some serious problems with a total economic collapse North of the Mediterranean, and some serious population drops in a variety of places.

251 posted on 09/23/2011 6:52:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tribune7
What you have to do on this tuition debate is give us a URL where you get your numbers from, and we want to see the FULL RATE and the INSTATE RATE, and we want to see it for 2011/20012.

$50 is for what and where and which schools and what's your URL.

252 posted on 09/23/2011 6:55:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The traditional date for the fall of Rome was Sept. 4, 476 when Odoacer deposed the Emperor Romulus Augustus and declared himself king of Italy.

You can argue there was still an Eastern Roman Empire. You can point out that a part of France (The Domain of Soissons) remained Roman for another decade. You can note that Eastern Romans actually managed to recapture Rome in 540.

But, really, in 476 it was over.

253 posted on 09/23/2011 7:05:51 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Tribune7
"IT" meaning Rome, wasn't over until the early 1400s when Constantinople fell to the Turks and the noble classes fled.

There used to be this theory that vast numbers of barbarians overran the place. Subsequent archaeological research revealed "IT" continued to putt along until 535 ~ that's the year even China turned to poop.

254 posted on 09/23/2011 7:09:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
$50 is for what and where and which schools and what's your URL.

What, you don't trust me? :-)

The $50 is the statutory in-state tuition rate. There is another designated tuition rate on top of it. An kid who entered illegally but grew up in Texas and graduated from a Texas high school would have to pay that too.

255 posted on 09/23/2011 7:14:48 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: muawiyah
Subsequent archaeological research revealed "IT" continued to putt along until 535

Where are you getting this from??

256 posted on 09/23/2011 7:16:06 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Tribune7
Read history ~ keep up on archaeological discoveries.

As long as there was a single government over the Italian peninsula, that was ROME.

They didn't turn into a Dark Ages wasteland until the Dark Ages started in what appears to have been the Spring of the year 535 AD.

Earlier writers confounded four events ~ the arrival of German usurpers, the move to Ravenna, the arrival of the Dark Ages, a minor sacking of Rome.

257 posted on 09/23/2011 7:25:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tribune7

http://www.utexas.edu/tuition/costs.html ~ the nursing program there costs a new non resident student $1,114 per credit hour! A resident is charged $324 per credit hour.


258 posted on 09/23/2011 7:36:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
A resident is charged $324 per credit hour.

That makes sense.

259 posted on 09/23/2011 7:50:15 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Tribune7
There is a 20% state subsidy behind that particular tuition charge. Then there's a subsidy from dividends from oil wells, and federal grants, and.... sunk costs in real estate provided for the university's program, and private bequests, and the state lottery!

Unstated is that the out of state tuition rate charges far more than the university costs to operate the programs ~ which means that SOME OF THE IN STATE students are actually subsidized by OUT OF STATE students ~ to wit, someone from New York attending University of Texas would be paying tuition to subsidize an illegal alien!

Many supporters imagine the in-state rates pays all the universities expenses ~ which it doesn't. Taxpayers make up some of the difference. Federal taxpayers make up some of it. Other state programs suffer as a consequence of this subsidy so widows and orphans have food taken from their mouths so that an illegal alien gets a doctorate somewhere in Texas.

It's an elitist sophistry that this hurts no one ~ when, in fact, it places a heavy penalty on the poor, the destitute, those yearning to be free of oppressive taxation and the evils attendant to poverty.

Better the state charge everyone the top end tuition than to continue hurting the helpless!

It's pretty obvious to me that Perry and his running dog lackeys have no heart!

260 posted on 09/23/2011 7:58:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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