Posted on 09/23/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
THE TRUTH FOUND A VOICE IN RICK PERRY
FoxNews-Google GOP Primary Debate [September 22, 2011] Gov. Rick Perry: [snip] ………If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought there, through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart. We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature, when this issue came up -- only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it greatly. [end] Texas Gov. Rick Perry responding to a question by Chris Wallace
Gov. Rick Perry has stated (for years) that the U.S. border with Mexico must be sealed. He has requested assistance (many people on the ground and drones in the air for Intel – he has studied how this is done in Israel). As Governor of Texas, he has been rebuked in person by the current president, who refuses his pleas for the Federal government to do its duty and provide the necessary means by which to seal our country’s international border with Mexico. The governor’s written requests go unheeded.
Texas spends hundreds of millions of dollars of state money to defend its border with Mexico. An elite Texas Ranger unit, put together by Perry, is working to hold the line on our border. Rick Perry has stated that fences do work in urban areas but are not effective, let alone feasible, along the 2000 mile Mexico - U.S. border (1200 miles in Texas alone). The Federal government ignores this problem, while at the same time blaming and punishing border governors when they try to protect their states. People in other states, without understanding the facts, blame border governors when this federally manufactured problem spreads into their states.
President Obama believes security is just fine on the border (better in fact than before he took office) and frankly, he’s following past examples where foreigners are allowed to cross into the U.S., where those with work visas are allowed to slip into U.S. society without any earnest, federal or court action to prevent it, where states are not allowed to ask children their legal status before attending school, where healthcare is accessible to everyone and where federal “social justice” programs have been put into place, thus beginning the progressive process of teaching new generations that it is “normal” to be dependent on government largess. [funded by those “more fortunate” Americans]
Then, periodically, another couple of generations are proclaimed by the federal government to be in the U.S. legally, by magnanimously proclaiming, “You can come out of the dark now and stay.” [sign up here for your Democratic Party voter card]
Rick Perry, as president, wants to finally seal the border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs – stop those vile cartels who traffic in human beings and drugs, and secure a dangerous, porous entry used by terrorists seeking to destroy America. The current administration is willfully enabling those who prefer border security remain as it is, those who characteristically (for self interest) want to avoid addressing and dealing with these problems.
Undeniably, Governor Perry is the GOP candidate most familiar with this issue and the problems associated with it. Texas has a long and rich history with Mexico. Mexico is the number one trading partner with America. Many U.S. citizens have Mexican ancestors who are proud Texans and Americans, many who have, are, and are willing to fight for America. Hispanics are the largest minority living in the United States. They have a high birth rate and are a major minority voting demographic. This didn’t happen because Texas shares over 1200 miles of international border with Mexico. The current magnitude of the problem, along with the number of the illegals in Texas and the United States, has everything to do with historic and current Federal inaction.
The Federal government looks to the states and tells them to “deal with it.” So state governments and their citizens have to “deal with” crime and a fast growing, uneducated population that puts a huge strain on state and federal resources. The resulting fall out for state government is, “you’re damned if you do and "you’re damned if you don’t." Gov. Perry and the Texas Legislature have accepted the criticism for taking the “damned if we do” path because they’re “dealing with it” first hand and Texans understand that "we're damned if we don't." These children are here, their potential and future has been put on our watch -- it is a practical and human decision and as Rick Perry said, “You don’t have a heart if you don’t.”
In 2001 the Texas Legislature voted in an Act (signed by Gov. Rick Perry) allowing children brought to the U.S. illegally (basically stateless people) by their parents, who complete 3 years of high school in Texas (graduate and want to attend college) to apply for U.S. citizenship and pay instate tuition. Their “anchor baby” siblings have this right by virtue of the 14th Amendment (that gave citizenship to children of slaves – slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment). If the country wants to abolish “anchor babies,” a majority of states need to vote for a change to the U.S. Constitution. The Texas education program is called the Texas Dream Act. The Texas Dream Act is not the same as the rejected Federal Dream Act proposed by the U.S. Senate because that federal legislation in totality and reality was an immigration bill.
The purpose of the Texas Dream Act is to have successful, educated citizens contributing toward a strong economy -- not unemployed or underemployed school dropouts who place a huge drain on our system [and begin generational poverty in their communities]. As past Federal actions have repeatedly shown Texas, illegal immigrants most likely will be allowed to stay. So the smart thing to do is allow them to pay instate tuition and be contributing citizens versus benefits receiving citizens. Gov. Mitt Romney does not agree with this and in fact rejected this approach in Massachusetts.
The truth found a voice in Rick Perry. Gov. Perry has said and believes that Conservative Ascendancy is how we will bring America back from the brink. Besides getting Americans working again we need to show them the value of conservatism and how those values encourage and support strong families and a free country.
Last night former Gov. Mitt Romney sounded like a “Snidley Whiplash-Simon Legree” character, while Gov. Rick Perry was “Dudley do right” looking after “Little Orphan Annie.” How do you think Barack Obama will (or won't) play these sound bites in his re-election bid for 4 more years?
Mitt Romney wants the status quo, which continues to feed the pipeline of generational, programmed victims -- driving trapped and dependent people into the arms of the growing army of the Democratic “fight for social justice” Party. Rick Perry wants to change the status quo and bring more voters into freedom – businesses owners, entrepreneurs eager to join the Republican Conservative Ascendancy Party – no matter what their last name or color, or gender or faith. And the border must be sealed first in order to do this.
Do the math. Rush Limbaugh has. Rush, like Gov. Perry, wants everyone to succeed (not secede). Rush, like Rick Perry, knows we’re at the crossroads that will decided the future path of the United States (and the world). Will it be Perpetual Dependency or Conservative Ascendancy? Democratic Party leaders are herding us into warring camps hoping to take us on the road to socialism. The states must take back power from the Federal government and get this country back on the road to free market capitalism.
This isn’t a Sound Bite issue.
“Nice try” Mitt.
YE-HA!
Perry supporters, be set free!
Make SURE you watch Rick Perry’s speech (given just moments ago) at CPAC Florida!
Link at the end.
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But before you watch that speech, do take one moment to prepare yourself by reading these tweets.
CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann
Perry all smiles and thumbs up as he takes the stage at CPAC. Doesn’t look like a guy who woke up to a lot of negative headlines this AM
StevenErtelt Steven Ertelt
Perry already working on putting poor debate behind him with very well received CPAC speech, get’s standing ovation.
rodomila Rod Milani
#CPACFL Perry recovers nicely with his speech at CPAC.
DanRiehl
RT @PeterHambyCNN: sum1 forgot 2 tell CPAC crowd that Perry had a bad debate. Standing O as he wraps speech w/ call 2 “get Washington out of the way!”
jensoft1 Stewart Leicester
Perry: We Don’t Need to Elect the ‘Smoothest Debater’: Orlando, Fla. — In his CPAC speech today, Rick Perry came... bit.ly/pOssUm
This is the Rick that we are rooting for!!!
http://cpac.tmadirect.net/video/rick_perry_cpac_florida_2011
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SEE NEWLY UPLOADED RICK PERRY SPEECH FROM CPAC FLORIDA (CAPTURED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO!)
http://cpac.tmadirect.net/video/rick_perry_cpac_florida_2011
It likely is that our perception of what USA citizens want in government representation are filtered through what gets attention on Free Republic.
We see the world through FreeRepublic glasses.
I’ll be sure to watch it casinva! And THANK YOU for giving the link and the real time impressions.
I’m listening to Benjamin Nethanyahu speaking at the UN right now and will go hear Gov Perry as soon as he finishes.
Thank you again.
Ping!
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But that not the original post I commented on. That was:
Just say NO to entitlements for illegals! If you educate them then you will be forced to either give amnesty or change the law so that they can be legally employed.
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My opinion on the whole immigration bit is:
I don't agree with illegals getting US benefits... and I think that if we cut them off from the benefits, they would up and self-deport themselves, mostly. Out of those that stayed, they would be the self-reliant, which are the type of people we *WANT* to be our immigrants.
As for the in-state college rate, I think it's a red herring meant to distract us. So what if they get in-state tuition rates, they are in the state. The real question is why our Federal government is letting them in and advertising for more with all the benefits given. None of which is addressed by focusing in on the in-state tuition rate law signed by a state governor.
great speeches and poll numbers don’t matter.
only debate performance!
/s
you should know that! don’t you remember President Alan Keys? the one who went on to beat Obama in his Senate run.... oh wait!.... that’s not what happened at all!
Thanks for all that. Hard to keep track of all the legislation and court rulings that have screwed this country over and over again.
I remember so clearly the day Brennan died. It was hard to say anything respectful, so much damage had he done.
Federal or state shouldn’t have their fingers in education at all. They should not be in the education business. They should not be providing loans, they should not have any say in what colleges and schools charge or who they choose to educate.
That changes the instate tuition rate discussion doesn’t it?
If you believe in government schools, you’re just a RINO who is not pure enough to be president. (Kidding just to get a point made)
In our past it used to be against the law to teach slaves to read. This was a law passed by South Carolina 270 years ago. Was this the right or wrong thing for the state to do?
Anyone who has dealling with ACORN in any way needs to be suspect.
Why have “Benefits” at all? Isn’t that how we have gotten in to this 15 trillion dollar debt? Why should any American live out of the pockets of their neighbor?
Get rid of the benefits, and what is left to argue about? Same applies to issues with gays. The argument is over government benefits or giveaway insurance. Get rid of the benefits and the arguments go away.
Let’s cut to the chase here, there are a large majority of illegals who are here and don’t give a damn about the United States, there don’t wish to share out culture, our history and they could care less about anything American. They are here because their on country is corrupt to the point that the people have few freedoms and little or no chance to better themselves especially economically.
No all but good majority come here to in a sense create a country within a country the ‘United States of Mexico’ one where they can live and thrive in the same history, culture and language of their homeland and yet not under the same corrupted government.
Some will want to argue numbers here so let’s use Tribune7’s number of 10 million illegals and lets say just 30% have the attitude I am writing about do you really want 3 million people coming into the United States and more or less colonizing it?
If there was a another country that border Mexico that was just as successful as the United States where they could live and thrive in their own enclaves they would move there just as quick as they move here.
Yes not all are like that, but a good potion are and we can not have people coming into this country who are of a mindset that they a merely wish to create ‘colonies’ of their home country within ours.
History is full of the results where such behavior was allow and eventually push came to shove and the results were ugly. And Rick Perry and may may others are enabling these people in their ‘colonization’ of the United States.
Well, that sums up my position as well. But since the posts I was replying to dealt with illegal immigration, I gave my view on illegal immigration.
Had the original post topic been about benefits, you’d have seen a post that’d have been nearly identical with yours.
:-P
” conservatives don’t have the luxury of dropping Perry. We have no place else to go. He is the only available port in a storm.”
Not true. Any one of those other candidates on that platform last night would be 1000% better than BHO.
By Nov 2012 Obama will likely not even be on the Democratic ticket as his own party in a state of desparation may well force him to resign or announce he is not running in 2012. If he does actually manage to stay in the race the GOP could run a corpse and win.
At this point I am waiting to see Newt’s new Contract For America which he will unveil in Iowa next week. I think a Gingrich/Cain ticket would win handily in 2012.
Perry is committing suicide with this immigration stance. If he keeps it up he’s toast.
Well, that sums up my position as well. But since the posts I was replying to dealt with illegal immigration, I gave my view on illegal immigration.
Had the original post topic been about benefits, you’d have seen a post that’d have been nearly identical with yours.
:-P
In Texas Schools, Perry Shuns Federal Influence ………>>>When Secretary of Education Arne Duncan jabbed Mr. Perry on public schools in mid-August, it was only the latest skirmish between the governor and the Obama administration since late 2009, when Mr. Perry announced that the state would not sign on to common core-curriculum standards.<<<...
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The Left is signaling that they hope a President Perry will fix education and get the inner cities out from under the impossible mess they've created:
Will Rick Perry Unravel the Strange Consensus on Public Education?
Pushing Amnesty or rewarding illegals is NOT a conservative position. Jim has banned people before for that.
And CW has a history of that.
Hence, my statement.
Any more brilliant comments?
Nope. Not at the moment, but I'll keep an eye out for your posts to see if I do then.
By the way, I've been on FR since 1998, so I would imagine that if Jim wanted to ban me for what I say, the information I provide, or the encouragement I give to conservative FReepers, he has had, and will have, plenty of time to do so.
Hence, my STAND.
Perry's CPAC speech was GREAT -- he starts out slow, winds up and then hits it out of the park!
Also, if anyone hasn't seen Perry's new ad it's HERE (over 445,000 views)
I have history and it’s out there for all FReepers to see.
I would never presume to ask the owner of this forum to remove you.
I am open to other ideas and learn from them.
You are Heartless I tell you Heartless. </sarcasm>
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