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Sarah Palin and the tide may have turned (the CBS/NYT poll of GOP contenders and its context)
September 17. 2011 | techno

Posted on 09/17/2011 1:20:17 PM PDT by techno

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1 posted on 09/17/2011 1:20:29 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

“Only announced Presidential contenders were part of the mix.”

As it should be.


2 posted on 09/17/2011 1:23:10 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: techno

What makes you think Palin is going to enter the race?


3 posted on 09/17/2011 1:23:30 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: techno
"Again Palin was not in the mix."

The frequency with which her name is mentioned would indicate the contrary.

4 posted on 09/17/2011 1:25:15 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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What makes you think Palin is going to enter the race?

Because Tokyo Rove said so.

5 posted on 09/17/2011 1:27:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Hildy

My next post will go into that.

Simply I have read the tea leaves over the past 2 and 1/2 years.

Why did Palin not take full advantage this summer while her kids were out of school and go on a paid speaking tour to maximize her income?

Why did Sarah Palin not sign on for a second season of Sarah Palin’s Alaska (SPAK) and thus forgo the opportunity to bank millions more?

And why has Sarah Palin not told Organize4Palin to cease and desist, knowing that hundreds of thousands of volunteers across the country await word she is running (Peter Singleton interview)?


6 posted on 09/17/2011 1:29:17 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

“Rick Perry has fallen back 15 points (38 to 23) and Romney has fallen back 7 points”

Palin will jump in soon.


7 posted on 09/17/2011 1:29:17 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: techno

Amazing that Gingrich can poll 7% while barely campaigning.


8 posted on 09/17/2011 1:29:37 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: techno

At this point, I seriously question the judgement of die-hard Palin supporters.


9 posted on 09/17/2011 1:34:40 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: techno

Uh...did you just try and say the top numbers of a different poll should be subtracted from this poll? LOL

That isn’t how it works. You compare the SAME POLLING COMPANY to itself to determine trends.


10 posted on 09/17/2011 1:36:15 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: techno

9)About the same time in the last election cycle here is where the GOP presidential contenders stood:

GIULIANI 34%

THOMPSON 23%

MCCAIN 16%

ROMNEY 9%

Quite frankly that is the most important part of the entire story. Go Palin!!!! We still believe in you and need you DESPERATELY!!!!!


11 posted on 09/17/2011 1:42:34 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Wolfstar

I don’t care if you question my judgement one bit. President Palin will change your mind right away. I suppose you are a Perry supporter.....roll eyes.


12 posted on 09/17/2011 1:45:44 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: techno
Polls, Polls, and more Polls..... Time will tell as we get deeper into the race and debates.

2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

Polling Data

Poll Date Perry Romney Palin Paul Bachmann Gingrich Cain Santorum Huntsman Spread
RCP Average 8/27 - 9/15 29.9 19.4 11.3 8.8 7.1 5.4 4.8 2.5 1.4 Perry +10.5
CBS News/NY Times 9/10 - 9/15 23 16 -- 5 7 7 5 1 1 Perry +7
Bloomberg 9/9 - 9/12 26 22 8 8 9 4 4 2 1 Perry +4
CNN/Opinion Research 9/9 - 9/11 30 18 15 12 4 5 5 2 2 Perry +12
PPP (D) 9/8 - 9/11 31 18 -- 11 9 10 8 2 2 Perry +13
ABC News/Wash Post 8/29 - 9/1 29 23 14 8 6 4 3 2 1 Perry +6
Politico/GWU/Battleground 8/28 - 9/1 36 17 -- 10 10 5 4 5 1 Perry +19
FOX News 8/29 - 8/31 26 18 8 7 4 3 4 3 1 Perry +8
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 8/27 - 8/31 38 23 -- 9 8 5 5 3 2 Perry +15

13 posted on 09/17/2011 1:46:44 PM PDT by deport
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To: Wolfstar

Bookmarked for later.


14 posted on 09/17/2011 1:54:50 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: techno
My prediction is that Perry will continue to sink in popularity as more and more is learned about him and his record, at least that's been the case with me.

It's not like he doesn't have anything to offer, but he's on the wrong side of a couple of critical issues, first and foremost illegal immigration.

If he presents a good and convincing case for a viable solution to our illegal immigration problems, he might have a better chance, but I think his own words and past actions will be effectively used against him.

He might also be able to put a pretty spin on his life as a demonrat and campaigning for Algore, but I'd be surprised if that happens.

It's true that Reagan switched parties and we love him for it, but consider that Perry didn't switch parties until after Reagan, not during his time as POTUS.

If he had switched during Reagan and because of Reagan, that would be a 'he's one of us' talking point, but looking at his conversion time line, I don't think that's the case. He's a bit too slow out of the gate to make that case.

15 posted on 09/17/2011 1:55:00 PM PDT by GBA
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Good analysis. I think Palin is letting Perry take out Romney and letting the other fade, before she announces.

Work smarter, not harder.


16 posted on 09/17/2011 1:56:43 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: deport

The Poll data: Good, Bad, Ugly


17 posted on 09/17/2011 1:59:03 PM PDT by deport
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To: techno

Idle speculation.

How long will you wait for her?


18 posted on 09/17/2011 2:05:28 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: techno

Do you have a link for any of this?


19 posted on 09/17/2011 2:10:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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Simply I have read the tea leaves over the past 2 and 1/2 years.

In Palin's case, I believe looking at the striations in the bearskin is the proper approach...

Why did Palin not take full advantage this summer while her kids were out of school and go on a paid speaking tour to maximize her income?

Because a book, a movie, and a $3,000,000 FOX News contract got in the way? Note that the contract prohibits Palin from speaking to/for other news organizations - and that might include a paid speaking tour with other people/organizations. Why take a risk on making a few hundred thousand per engagement when you have 3 million dollars locked-in?

Why did Sarah Palin not sign on for a second season of Sarah Palin’s Alaska (SPAK) and thus forgo the opportunity to bank millions more?

Probably wouldn't be allowed with the FOX News deal she has. You know, the one with the guaranteed $1,000,000 a year for three years.

And why has Sarah Palin not told Organize4Palin to cease and desist, knowing that hundreds of thousands of volunteers across the country await word she is running (Peter Singleton interview)?

Who do you think would read her books or see her movie? What better way to sell books and tickets than to have those loyal fans hang on her every word? Do you think her movie would have done as well as it did if she had announced she was NOT running for President?

Now a question for you: why would Palin sign a 3 year contract with FOX if she was planning to run for President? Breaking contracts early nearly always carry penalties and are not clean at all - why not sign a 6 month or 1 year deal, rather than a 3 year deal?

20 posted on 09/17/2011 2:16:21 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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