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Some of You Tea Party Folk Think Perry’s the Answer?
http://markamerica.com ^ | 27 August, 2011 at 00:23 | MarkAmerica

Posted on 08/27/2011 12:10:12 PM PDT by el_texicano

Looks Tough Firing Blanks

If you're a Tea Party member, or you have significant sympathies with them, I'd caution you against climbing aboard Rick Perry's TransTexasCatastrophe. The Media is doing everything possible to paint this guy as a bronc-busting, cattle-roping, Texan, but in truth, there are more than a few things you ought to know about him. He's no friend to individual rights, except in an election season, and he's not really the trend-setter he'd have you believe. His record on jobs isn't actually so swift as he'd have you believe, and he's got less in common with the average Texan than he does with the Wall Street types with whom he prefers to consort. He's no friend of Main Street, and he's certainly no friend to real entrepreneurs, and for all his posturing as one of us, he isn't, and it's been quite plain. Those of you from outside Texas can be forgiven for mistaking Perry for a conservative. It's assumed because he's a Republican, and he's from Texas, he must be. Let me now explain a bit of why this isn't the case.

Friday I heard the increasingly estimable Mark Davis claim that you shouldn't mind that Perry converted from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party because, as he points out, Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat too. Of course, this is a lie by omission, because what Davis doesn't mention is that it was a long stretch of years between Reagan's conversion and his arrival in California electoral politics. This isn't the case with Rick Perry. He was Al Gore's Texas Campaign Manager in 1988, and following the loss, immediately reversed course and ran as a Republican. I don't know about you, but despite Davis' rather disingenuous interpretation of Reagan's conversion, painting it as just alike, I'm inclined to believe he left some details out intentionally.

Rick Perry has been a regular guest on Davis' show on WBAP in the D/FW area for years, and to consider Davis anything like an objective or unbiased voice in this stretches all credulity. Frankly, I hope Limbaugh finds somebody else to be a regular fill in, because Davis is clearly in the tank for Perry, and it runs against Limbaugh's general premise that he will take no position in a Republican primary, except in general terms on behalf of conservatism.

You may have heard some of Perry's more recent statements about conditions along the Texas border with Mexico, and you might be inclined to believe Mr. Perry thinks more should be done. He even tried to repair his credibility on the issue by being broadcast on a live feed from a base of operations near the border for an interview on Greta Van Susteren's show. If you believe that stage-managed bit of theater, I'm inclined to let you know right now that he's relatively no more conservative in real terms than George Bush, which is to say on the matter of his statist, globalist reflexes, he's no conservative at all. I'd hate it if anybody else broke the news to you, because I believe bad news is best delivered by a friend. Check out the following video for where Rick Perry really stands on issues of the border:

watch?v=UwD84nKA5y0

I realize there's a tendency to overstate things in the name of supporting one's position, but it's really no exaggeration to suggest that Perry isn't really very close in his thinking to Tea Party Members, not when measured against what he's been saying since October 2010, but in what he has said all along throughout his career. He's taken money and support from La Raza, ACORN, and other groups that advocate spending tax-payer dollars for dubious programs and projects.

He's also a crony-capitalist. If you're like me, that's simply something you can't abide. I love the free market, but Governor Perry's revolving door between his staff and corporate boardrooms is a well-established phenomenon, and frankly, if you buy into his nonsense, he's going to wind up exploiting your good intentions too. Companies like Merck and Cintra are more his style, and his staff has reflected this over the years of his gubernatorial reign.

You've undoubtedly heard about the Gardasil flap, and likely been willing to dismiss it as a fluke. That would be a serious and potentially tragic mistake. The most ridiculously egregious thing he may have done in his tenure as Governor of Texas was the proposed TransTexas Corridor. You may have heard of it, but may not have any details, so let me expound on that for a moment or two. This was the project that first enlightened me to Perry's big government answers to all things. The upshot is this: It was to be a vast network of toll roads, but more, it would have included some form of light and heavy rail, pipelines, and all manner of things. On the surface, this might sound attractive, but as with any such project, the devil lies in the details.

The plan included 4400 linear miles of a toll road network, running parallel in many cases to existing Highways and Interstates already in existence. The corridor's right of way was to be a full 1/4 mile wide. Simple math tells you that even ignoring junctions and interchanges, this would have consumed 1100 square miles of Texas' territory. You might argue that while it's a lot of land, Texas is a big state. That's all well and good if the state already owns the land, but since it doesn't, it was going to acquire it by use of eminent domain. Again, you might argue that building roads is one function for which eminent domain out to apply, but once you look at the rules to be applied to this project, you might well conclude otherwise. Rather than basing their offers to property owners on free market value, they instead intended to limit it to "fair market value" as determined by a panel of cronies they would gin up for the chore.

This project actually proposed bisecting county and farm roads, and even property, dead-ending what are fairly important thoroughfares for the communities they serve. More, it would have bisected school districts and even towns along its path. Again, you might think that impossible until you understand that this was to be a closed system with few exits or on-ramps, only permitting access at major Highway and Interstate junctions. This threatened to destroy many rural communities, and they rose up against it. Once the details became clear to the public, it was quickly sent back for re-work, and eventually dumped.

Here were the things they didn't advertise, but you need to know. It was supposed to be operate by a concessionaire, Cintra, for a period of 50 years. It was going to employ tolls of roughly $0.26 per mile. A geographical understanding of the scale of Texas immediately prompts the question: "Who on Earth would voluntarily pay to enter a closed-system roadway at that cost over the huge distances in Texas, when a free parallel alternative is just a few miles away in the form of an Interstate, or Highway?" Good question, and the answer is: Almost nobody. So how did they intend to make this work? In 2004,TxDOT applied to the USDOT for a waiver so that they could charge a toll on the existing I-35. The first leg of the proposed TTC system was called TTC-35, the leg that would run from Laredo to an undetermined point on the Oklahoma border. In other words, it was a corridor to nowhere, but in order to get you to use it, they were going to toll the free Interstate and let it fall into disrepair.

Opponents at the time argued that the existing I-35 corridor could be widened, and this was met with a dismissive rejection by Perry's Transportation Commission. They said it couldn't be done in a cost-efficient way. Your confusion at this statement matches that of the average Texan who realizes that this couldn't possibly be true. How hard is it to add a few lanes here and there? Yes, you'll have some eminent domain issues, but nothing on the scale of what the TTC proposed.

They also promised it would promote economic development, but what they kept concealed for a while, until they no longer could do so under the law, was that because it was a closed system, Cintra, the corporation from Spain that would build and operate it, would also have exclusive rights to all concessions along its length. More, due to the limitations on exits and on-ramps, it could never be shown how this colossal highway system would provide any sort of economic boon to anybody, because you wouldn't be able to access most smaller towns from along its length. I'm sure you'll agree with me that the fact that one of Perry's top staffers was a former Cintra VP, and the fact that one of his own staffers had gone on to work for Cintra had absolutely nothing to do with Perry's TTC plans. Right?

Ladies and gentlemen, if you've fallen prey to the hype about Perry, you may be forgiven, particularly if you're not from Texas. You're not aware, as so many here, that Perry isn't the fellow he's now being portrayed to be. He's not a friend to the Tea Party, despite his seeming 2010 conversion, because much like his conversion in 1989, this conversion also seems to be one of convenience. I will assure you, this is most definitely the case.

Perry likes to put on an act about his conservative credentials, and his sympathies with the Tea Party, but if the truth is told, he's no more one of us than the man in the Moon. You might want to let your fellow conservatives and Tea Party patriots know it too: We're being hustled again.


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To: Liz; South40; All

” Did Senor Perrynista not know about this? Or was he taking a siesta? “

He was out of town, accepting a payoff from a pharmaceutical company : )


341 posted on 08/27/2011 5:46:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Liz

B U M P


342 posted on 08/27/2011 5:47:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: RowdyFFC

Let’s get a tad more specific, shall we?
THIS IS LA RAZA, talkin’ about YOU, babe...

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863

“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. ... Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. ... We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan.”
“For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”
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Inform yourself before you give responses that make you sound stupid.


343 posted on 08/27/2011 5:49:58 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: RowdyFFC

Bull Sh*t.


344 posted on 08/27/2011 5:52:17 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

I don’t care what La Raza does and says, they’re La Raza!

Nor am I going to fault my Governor for going to La Raza and clearly and consisely informing them what his stance is on border security and immigration reform! He simply went, told them there would be NO immigration reform until the border has been secured, the influx is stopped, and as far as he’s concerned everybody needs to get in line for legal immigation if they want to come to the US.

I can’t seem to find ONE fault with his doing that. But I see how YOU can. You’re drinking up the democratic propaganda and horse manure and smearing it all over yourself because you like it!


345 posted on 08/27/2011 5:55:24 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

I repeat my question. It’s simple..even for you. Only requires a yes or no. Okay? Ready?

Gee, darlin’. And just when did t\rick perry give y’all this gardasil EO and opt out thingy? Wasn’t it LONG after these rules were in place?
Why, yes. It was.
And did t/rick perry KNOW these rules were already in place?
Why. yes. He did.
Come ON. Do you think we can’t COUNT either?


346 posted on 08/27/2011 5:56:05 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: RowdyFFC

Well, then, sweetiepie, YOU keep him. Okay? Because WE care.


347 posted on 08/27/2011 5:59:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

What don’t you understand, Sir. The many parents had not opted out in 2003, THE MANY! So, they needed an opt out if they’d never opted out before.

Once AGAIN, you cannot get Medicaid and SCHIP or any insurance company to pay for immunizations unless they are mandated by the state. The MANY MANY WANTED the Gardasil vaccination AND they wanted it paid for.

NOW, DO YOU GET IT? DUH! DUH! DUH! DUH!


348 posted on 08/27/2011 6:02:02 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: MestaMachine

Well, darlin pookie poo, again when you get a clue, then let’s talk. Until then wallow in it.


349 posted on 08/27/2011 6:03:39 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Gena Bukin

That’s right. Some of these guys think they own the place and are enraged that anyone with less than 10 years posting (lurking doesn’t count) here should show them and their opinions deferrence for that reason alone. It’s what people who can’t earn respect through normal channels always resort to. Classic impotent blue-hair behavior.


350 posted on 08/27/2011 6:04:52 PM PDT by DRey
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To: RowdyFFC

So if the many, many wanted it, then why did MORE many, many force t/rick perry to reverse it? Are you always this illogical?
And... you doesn’t has to call me sir. Honest. ROFL


351 posted on 08/27/2011 6:06:17 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine
Oooh! Ooooh!! I can answer that. I was one of them that didn't want it. Furious about it. You see, we didn't know what we were talking about. We didn't know it was optional, and we didn't know if it was safe. We didn't know a thing about it...like you.

Then, after it was all withdrawn, we started hearing how if we DID want it now, it would cost $365 because insurance wouldn't pay for it if it wasn't mandated, and MOST people couldn't afford it.
352 posted on 08/27/2011 6:11:38 PM PDT by DRey
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To: MestaMachine

The many many parents didn’t for/trick Perry. The few, the very few commies and RINOs in the legislature didn’t even trick Perry. But they did open up the education statues and screwed the many many things up while they were at it, honey darlin pookie poo.


353 posted on 08/27/2011 6:12:59 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: DRey

...er...honey darlin’ pookie poo.......


354 posted on 08/27/2011 6:14:06 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Gena Bukin
"They, too, suffer from Perry Derangement Syndrome."

Sorry but PDS was WELL before this "perry derangement syndrome". You people need to come up with your own ideas....you know, like grassroot?

355 posted on 08/27/2011 6:14:34 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: trickamsterdam

Again, I know you fanatics aren’t going to listen to this, but this is a terrible way to win support for her. Ask, someone, anyone you know whose job it is to sell.

Encourage her to enter the race, then when she does, write threads about why she’s better than Perry. If you care about her, YOU ARE MAKING PEOPLE HATE HER doing it this way.
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The above is nonsense, hence my response to you.

First, I am for Palin but many of the other posters on this thread pointing out bush2’s awful record are not.The purpose isn’t to win support for Palin or any other candidate.

My purpose here is to shine a light on bush2’s record. Even if Palin doesn’t run I will not vote for Perry in the primary, I will look for a good tea party patriot candidate that can win instead.

Pointing out your opponents record is an excellent,effective and necessary tactic.

Tearing down the false image being put forth by your opponent works, always.

This is why, despite what you people like you claim to think of them, hundreds of millions of dollars are spent on “negative” ads each election.


356 posted on 08/27/2011 6:18:22 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: free me
No one minds you pointing out Perry's record. In 22 years he has made his share of mistakes. What is unacceptable are the misrepresentations of his record. It is with malice these things are presented out of context. His record is long, and it's easy to put things into the wrong context. There's a word for it. It's called a "lie."

As for making people hate Palin, I still like her. She will be endorsing Perry in September and receiving an appointment for it once he wins the White House. In that capacity she will be able to get seasoned for a legitimate presidential run in the future. I look forward to that time. For now, Perry 2012!!!
357 posted on 08/27/2011 6:23:01 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey; RowdyFFC

Wotta you know. The Bobbsey Twins right here on FR. Can’t argue with empty. Some might say that two heads are better than one. But I don’t say that. No ma’ams. Not me. ROFL


358 posted on 08/27/2011 6:29:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

Aw, come on, Mesta. Is that all you got in the way of insults? “Bobbsey Twins”?


359 posted on 08/27/2011 6:30:35 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

DR, if you thought the Bobbsey Twins was the insult, you deserve to be insulted. Geez.


360 posted on 08/27/2011 6:34:46 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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