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The Progressive Crisis
The American Interest. ^ | August 2, 2011 | Walter Russell Mead

Posted on 08/03/2011 7:42:20 PM PDT by neverdem

The debt ceiling compromise is the end of the liberal dream that the Obama presidency would do for the left what Ronald Reagan’s time in office did for the right.

Stanley Greenberg, one of the best pollsters anywhere and a leading intellectual light of the Democratic party, has a must read in the NY Times on the mysterious inability of Democrats to turn widespread public support on individual issues into a stable governing majority.

It’s perplexing. When unemployment is high, and the rich are getting richer, you would think that voters of average means would flock to progressives, who are supposed to have their interests in mind — and who historically have delivered for them.

Yet they don’t. Why, Greenberg asks, do so many voters tune the Democrats out. And what can the Democrats do to win them back?

That he’s asking these questions at all is a testament to the colossal failure of Democrat hopes in the aftermath of the 2008 presidential election. The “transformational President” failed to bring about the Great Realignment Democrats thought they saw. Healthcare was a poisoned chalice; the debt ceiling bill was a disaster. The electorate keeps trending right and the Democratic establishment, more than thirty years after Ronald Reagan’s inauguration, is no closer to solving the problem of the New Right than it was when Jimmy Carter turned the White House over to the Gipper.


Ronald Reagan (Wikimedia)

Greenberg, a man who studies American voters with great care and who combines a deep knowledge of American politics with decades of experience interpreting the nuances of voter opinion...

--snip--

This is the new Jacksonian surge, and progressives will have to dig deeper than even Stan Greenberg has yet done to figure out how to come to terms with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.the-american-interest.com ...


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KEYWORDS: liberalism; progressivism

1 posted on 08/03/2011 7:42:26 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Socialism don’t work without access to others people money..
Socialism is a parasite on capitalism... that seeks to kill the host..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


2 posted on 08/03/2011 8:00:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: neverdem

Most people have heard the stories of their grandparents about the great depression. Their stories do not jibe with the trash that most historians put out. The truth has a way of slipping out and those who work for a living see right through the propaganda.


3 posted on 08/03/2011 8:02:48 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: neverdem

It’s so simple. “unemployment is high, and the rich are getting richer, you would think that voters of average means would flock to progressives, who are supposed to have their interests in mind — and who historically have delivered for them.”

A couple of reasons.

Usually we get into these situations because progressives are in control, so people turn to the “non ruling” party.

Secondly, it’s where the rubber meets the road. The Dems can tell people all they want, “It’s the evil Wall streeters!” But people go into work, and the boss says, I’m sorry, I’m going to have to lay you off. There’s no work out there. My expenses are too high. And the expenses are all government mandated ones.


4 posted on 08/03/2011 8:07:44 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: neverdem

Curious if you had a sort of maniacal grin on your face when you posted this scrambled leftist brains dissertation?

I say that as humor. I’m sitting here shaking my head repeating to the wall behind my screen “no hoper”, “no hoper”.

I quit reading about halfway. Had to in order to retain my sanity.


5 posted on 08/03/2011 8:07:58 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: neverdem

the answer’s because obama doesn’t share the same goals as greenberg.

in other words, obama the ideologue has no intention of improving jobs etc

because he wants to destroy the u.s. economy.


6 posted on 08/03/2011 8:13:53 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: neverdem
Think he really put his finger on it with this line:

Government operates by the wrong values and rules, for the wrong people and purposes, the Americans I’ve surveyed believe. Government rushes to help the irresponsible and does little for the responsible.

7 posted on 08/03/2011 8:15:41 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: neverdem
One way of encapsulating the aims of people drawn to figures like Sarah Palin is to say that these are people who want adult America to look more like high school, with intellect less highly regarded and rewarded, and people smarts and character counting for more.

At bottom, the source of The Progressive Crisis is that progressives place no value on character.

See Clinton, Bill.

And if anything is to be desired in an elected official, it is character. Not education. Not social status. Character.

The final determinant of anybody's vote for President should be: Do I trust this man (woman) to lead the nation's children in a war?

If the answer is "yes", that person deserves your vote -- regardless of party. Whether they went to school at Yale...or in Idaho.

8 posted on 08/03/2011 8:15:49 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: neverdem

ping


9 posted on 08/03/2011 9:27:26 PM PDT by RetAF_fedUP (No moral value held dear by the American people obliges public servants ever to sacrifice innocents)
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To: neverdem
This anger feeds the energy that a Sarah Palin is able to tap; it is part of why the jocks and cheerleaders on Fox News so consistently outdraw the nerds on CNN

watching CNN is painful.

FOX's Megyn Kelly vs CNN's Candy Crowley....we report you decide....


10 posted on 08/04/2011 5:01:51 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: neverdem

Dan Kauffman wrote, ‘You can see the result when Progressives and the Liberal Media react to grassroots movements like the Tea Party with all the outraged horror of a Master Class witnessing the start of a Slave Rebelion.’


11 posted on 08/04/2011 6:29:40 AM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: griswold3
Mark Steyn: When Obama Hands You Lemons . . .

The original party of slavery now wants to enslave everyone with good intentions that are worse than useless and more taxes.

12 posted on 08/04/2011 1:40:54 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thank God ,the answer to this Left wing fruit Cake is at least for Now, there are still AMERICANS LIVING HERE!!!!!!!
We are not Marxists,YET! I am 61 maybe I will at Least live in the Good old United States as a Republic until I die,My Children and Grandchildren Im Not so sure about


13 posted on 08/05/2011 4:44:40 AM PDT by ballplayer
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