[silverleaf]

If they fold, they must have decided to become as irrelevant as the Whigs

[Thom Pain]

"The elected Republicans, and the Democrats, also share the belief that even a reduction in rates of increase in "programs" will trigger violence on an almost unimaginable scale."

When the ponzi scheme fails, which it inevitably will, the fit will truly hit the shan. Only the Dems can reform welfare (medicare, medicaid, etc.) without massive riots, and they won't because then they would have no constituency, and the Repubs can't/won't due to riot fears, so we must wait for the ponzi failure which will likely destroy many lives, both of current recipients of $$ and those victimized by the lawlessness that will ensue.