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To: silverleaf
"The elected Republicans, and the Democrats, also share the belief that even a reduction in rates of increase in "programs" will trigger violence on an almost unimaginable scale."

When the ponzi scheme fails, which it inevitably will, the fit will truly hit the shan. Only the Dems can reform welfare (medicare, medicaid, etc.) without massive riots, and they won't because then they would have no constituency, and the Repubs can't/won't due to riot fears, so we must wait for the ponzi failure which will likely destroy many lives, both of current recipients of $$ and those victimized by the lawlessness that will ensue.

12 posted on 07/31/2011 7:00:09 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Raising Tax RATES decreases Tax REVENUES. Spread the word.)
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To: Thom Pain

You are 100% correct. The Republican leadership will cave. Democrats will agree to budget cuts that will never materialize. It is the Lucy with the football cartoon all over again. However, Conservative have an important ally. It is the invisible hand. “By a continuing process of inflation, government can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.” - John Maynard Keynes. The poor have actually lost the most from this economic downturn. Eventually enough Americans will wake up.


19 posted on 07/31/2011 7:24:24 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: Thom Pain

You have nailed it...the unspoken circumstance that prevents reform. Look around at society, culture and the people who inhabit the US today. They are essentially lost and the only light in the woods is the expectation of a government candle.

Only massive deportations, work camps and other authoritarian measures could change the trajectory of this country... but we aren’t going to burn the village to save it.


27 posted on 07/31/2011 7:54:11 AM PDT by yetidog
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To: Thom Pain
When the ponzi scheme fails, which it inevitably will, the fit will truly hit the shan.

It won't be on Obama/Democrates watch...guaranteed. Looks like they are simply pushing this all down the road for the Republicans to straighten out as always...then they'll come back in the following election, after the Republicans have done the heavy lifting, and tear down further what's been built back up.

This tit-for tat isn't going to last much longer and it wouldn't take much to put the US over the edge even now.

Sheesh, we are still fighting wars in Yemen, Libya, Aphganistan, and Iraq....and Korea isn't going to remain passive for very much longer with a famine on the brink. While Russia and China continue to stage themselves solid.

40 posted on 07/31/2011 9:43:55 AM PDT by caww
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