[Baynative]

The folly of their idealism was that if there ever was a complete collapse, a powerful force would emerge that might well consist of former military commanders and international business conglomerates who would wipe the upstart anarchists out in short order.

This is also the failing of the world socialist dream held by Obama. If somehow it became possible to confiscate all wealth and distribute it evenly, the same people who are rich and creative now would have it all back in a few short years. It's because they have the ambition and intelligence that the others do not.

[Free Vulcan]

I don’t see how the leftists could possibly make out at all. All their useless eaters would die, the creative people and producers would survive, we have governors with national guards and the ability to call up militias that would secede, and all the leftist shock troops would be marked for death with 300+ million guns in this country.