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For Amy (Winehouse)
http://www.russellbrand.tv/2011/07/for-amy/ ^ | July 24th, 2011 | Russell Brand

Posted on 07/27/2011 10:25:39 PM PDT by bad company

Edited on 07/27/2011 11:27:09 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 07/27/2011 10:25:41 PM PDT by bad company
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To: bad company

“It is cheaper to rehabilitate an addict than to send them to prison, so criminalisation doesn’t even make economic sense.”

Ah, but it keeps so many jack booted thugs employed (and here in California a lot of them are unionized Prison Guards).

RIP Amy, the 27 club was already too damn big.


2 posted on 07/27/2011 10:32:03 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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>>RIP Amy, the 27 club was already too damn big.<<

I read an article (here on FR but I can’t find it) that many rockers with addiction problems died at 27. Hendrix, Morrison, Janice, and others...

God, 27 is so young! I knew so much at 27 and knew so little at 30. And that pattern repeated by decade until I hit 50 and realized I knew so little and will know so little forever...

Poor tortured child.

I don’t think she was all that talented but she was popular. She could have done a lot with that.

I really do pray for her soul and her family and friends.


3 posted on 07/27/2011 10:37:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: RedStateRocker

I was thinking that the one artist whose life most closely paralleled Amy’s was Hank Williams Sr. And in the end, it may very well have been the alcohol that did the most damage.


4 posted on 07/27/2011 10:37:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bad company

Too bad the hold drugs get over people and that nobody around her could help.

5 posted on 07/27/2011 10:40:33 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: bad company

Lohan is next up for the 27 Club. She’s eligible on July 2, 2013. Mark your dead pool in the fall of 2012.


6 posted on 07/27/2011 10:41:23 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

She looked considerably better in the last photos taken of her, it’s usually the first binge after not using for awhile that winds up killing you.


7 posted on 07/27/2011 10:42:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bad company

Addiction as a “romantic disease” is today’s equivalent of “consumption” (tuberculosis). But back then, living was hard enough.


8 posted on 07/27/2011 10:45:01 PM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: bad company

My Nephew was an addict. He started doing drugs at age 19. He had a very high IQ but by the age of 26 his brain was burned out. He took his own life by breaking a Natural Gas pipe line in the apartment he was renting. In his suicide note, the line, “I’m not smart anymore” stood out. His mother and father still grieve after 7 years and still blame themselves. They had 4 kids, 3 of them are fine, one failure but not their fault IMO.


9 posted on 07/27/2011 10:48:38 PM PDT by calex59
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To: bad company

An incredibly talented individual.
R.I.P.


10 posted on 07/27/2011 10:53:39 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: dfwgator

Still sad what and how it happens. Don’t think there is anything you can do for someone that is hooked until they decide themselves. Lost a few friends. Either dead or ruined their lives. Sad.


11 posted on 07/27/2011 10:54:55 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: calex59
one failure but not their fault IMO.

It was not their fault.

12 posted on 07/27/2011 10:56:08 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: calex59

Sad. Some of that damage would have been reversible had he asked the right people.


13 posted on 07/27/2011 10:58:07 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: dfwgator
"She looked considerably better in the last photos taken of her, it’s usually the first binge after not using for awhile that winds up killing you."


A body, believed to be that of singer singer Amy Winehouse, is removed from her home following her death, in north London, Saturday, July 23, 2011.

14 posted on 07/27/2011 11:07:12 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper ("Don't Call My Bluff")
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To: bad company
They have about them the air of elsewhere, that they’re looking through you to somewhere else they’d rather be. And of course they are.

Well said.

15 posted on 07/27/2011 11:10:01 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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“It is cheaper to rehabilitate an addict than to send them to prison, so criminalisation doesn’t even make economic sense.”

part of rehabilitation is hitting bottom. For many folks, this means several trips to jail, prison, hospital or what not. I’m not talking about confinement on YOUR terms, like these stars who “check in”, I’m talking about losing everything, and doing some real time.

further, as a society member, I’m not too concerned about rehabing a person, unless they want to be rehab’d, I’m concerned with getting drug addicts off the street where they can cause harm to me or my family, or themselves and their families (often their own children).

As someone who put the cork in the bottle many 24 hours ago, I will tell you, that you cannot force anyone to rehab. Those that try are beating their heads against a wall. I have never in my sober career seen anyone really rehab, that didn’t want to. I’ve seen plenty go through the motions, and get released by the courts, but they were right back again, using, until they either hit the morgue, or hit bottom hard enough to want to sober up.

It makes no economic sense to send people to rehab who don’t want to be there. It just don’t work.

(but let me be clear, the feds have no business in the drug war, it is a states right and power)


16 posted on 07/28/2011 12:16:36 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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Yes. I was thinking this as well when I heard about her binge. I know too many that have been down her same path sadly. But also many who said, "i'm done," and had a new life unfold. It goes one way or the other. I was blessed to 'get it' at 21. People questioned when they hear the age I got sober. All I remember is that Amy had nothing on me, but I just got it earlier and had a chance at a full, rich, blessed life.

Recovery isn't for those that need it, but for those that want it. She didn't want it bad enough.

17 posted on 07/28/2011 1:29:01 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: calex59
I am sorry to hear about your nephew. Very sad. Too bad he couldn't understand in his soul that giving up drugs and alcohol could have given him a second chance. No one's fault.

The addict has to decide to take the risk that life will be either more livable or just plain better without the drugs and/or alcohol. Sometimes it may seem to take awhile to comprehend that it is not only much better but life (as opposed to the distorted reality of the drunk or drug addict.) I have been where your nephew was at more than once and God intervened both times to save my life. May your family find peace. It has to be so painful.

18 posted on 07/28/2011 1:36:43 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: bad company

No great loss in my book.


19 posted on 07/28/2011 2:43:11 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: calex59

That’s why I’m not quick to blame parents. I know way too many families that have raised two or three great kids, and one bad one. It seems to happen with great regularity.


20 posted on 07/28/2011 3:34:52 AM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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