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Won't One Brave Conservative Call for the Rich to Chip In?
Illinois Review ^ | July 25, 2011 A.D. | John F. Di Leo

Posted on 07/25/2011 12:59:54 PM PDT by jfd1776

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What we need is a pure flat tax combined with a federal sales tax, the rates being only what is needed to pay for the functioning of the government, which, ideally, would be a much smaller number than it is today. No deductions. No games. Taxation is to fund the government and nothing else.

Speaking of billionaires, Jeffry Immelt, Lloyd Blankfein and Eric Schmidt (all big Obama supporters) would have fits.

21 posted on 07/25/2011 1:12:53 PM PDT by Batrachian (Prepare for four more years - unless Perry is nominated.)
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To: Doogle

Bupkis.

“Soaking the rich” wouldn’t produce enough revenue to sneeze at plus it would suppress economic activity and chase wealthy producers out of the US; it would just agree with Hussein’s sick notion of punishing people who have done well economically.


22 posted on 07/25/2011 1:14:16 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: jfd1776

I think many Freepers just read the headlines before they post...


23 posted on 07/25/2011 1:14:48 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: jfd1776

Okay...

Barack and Michelle, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore, The Chintons, etc... YOU are rich. Fork it over! Pull your country from ‘the brink’!


24 posted on 07/25/2011 1:18:00 PM PDT by J40000
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To: Batrachian

“What we need is a pure flat tax combined with a federal sales tax,...”

I am a very big proponent for the fairtax, however I would settle for the incremental improvement of a straight flat tax. I WILL NEVER PROPOSE OR ACCEPT BOTH!

(sry for yelling, it is just that I hear BO say the same thing and always yell at my TV at the fool.)


25 posted on 07/25/2011 1:18:39 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: jfd1776

The leftists would tax God if they could. God requires only a 10% contribution for charity and returns blessings of peace and freedom but Govt taxes like the devil resulting in tyrranical enslavement and hell on earth. Think about it...


26 posted on 07/25/2011 1:19:15 PM PDT by tflabo ( to have been selected)
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To: Scanian

....the Rich are Rich because they are not stupid, unlike those who believe in shared wealth...and depend on government.
Six and seven generations on welfare?....is stupidity, not ignorance. Ignorance is no knowledge, stupidity is THE CHOICE to remain that way.


27 posted on 07/25/2011 1:21:59 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: jfd1776

Disgusting. Where does this moral midget think jobs come from?


28 posted on 07/25/2011 1:22:09 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Doogle

Was playing tennis last week at a public part. Heard one of the black guys brag how he asked a white woman, “If you’re not rich, how can you be a Republican?” Thought it was very clever and insightful. Getting people like them to change their thinking will be impossible.


29 posted on 07/25/2011 1:22:19 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: jfd1776
Alright, here's one....all rich liberals(with a net worth over $250,000)must pay an immediate hypocrite tax of 40%.

..it's for "the children".

or...

STFU

That is all.

30 posted on 07/25/2011 1:22:59 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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Obama is a slogan spouting Leftist. What he seeks to fund, by confiscating the fruits of other people's labor & investment, are destructive social policies that inflict considerable hurt on all of us, including those supposed to benefit.

Why should anyone want to contribute to that.

Moreover, if you read Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution, you will see that as a result of the Sixteenth Amendment, the rich are already being taxed at far more than a fair rate. (Direct taxes were supposed to be per capita, not per income.)

It is time that people looked more closely at the whole question of what motivates contemporary tax policy. It is based more on jealousy, envy and resentment, than on fairness: "Progressive" Income Tax--Destructive Socialist Misnomer.

William Flax

31 posted on 07/25/2011 1:23:32 PM PDT by Ohioan
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The "rich" already pay the lion's share of *income* tax. It really doesn't help much. Switch to a *consumption* tax (like the FairTax) and then we'll talk about encouraging the "rich" to kick in a little extra (by buying a little extra). At least then they'll get something out of the deal as the wheels of commerce are greased. Otherwise, the cost of goods sold will rise to accommodate the impact on their lifestyles that additional taxation would have, and the little guys suffer even more as the tax is distributed to the consumers.


32 posted on 07/25/2011 1:26:32 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: J40000

There ya go. They talk all of this Manure about the rich should pay more. Show me the checks the Senate and House Democrats have sent to the IRS to help in this mess.

Yeah and after all is said and done they will still not be paying more either. They will leave themselves a hole.One big enough to walk through. Obama could aspare a million easily. If he really wanted to help he could pay for the fuel he and the wookie burn up flying around in my helicopter and airplane.


33 posted on 07/25/2011 1:27:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: unixfox

I believe you have the right idea


34 posted on 07/25/2011 1:28:32 PM PDT by Razwan (Yeah, yeah, I know...Razwan, member since 30 June 2000)
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To: jfd1776
The "rich" do chip in. I want the POOR to "chip in". Therefore, make the 47% of this country who pays NO INCOME TAX to start paying.

We have a two-headed dragon. Those who are "poor" rely on the government for their well being through welfare, assistance, etc. AND anyone who are making money are not taxed.

Cut off both heads and return the Country to a place where good men, through their democratic REPUBLIC sought to provide a safety net for the "weak and the poor" as defined by Sumner in "The Forgotten Man."

And from that great essay...

"Now you know that "the poor and the weak" are continually put forward as objects of public interest and public obligation. In the appeals which are made, the terms "the poor" and "the weak" are used as if they were terms of exact definition. Except the pauper, that is to say, the man who cannot earn his living or pay his way, there is no possible definition of a poor man. Except a man who is incapacitated by vice or by physical infirmity, there is no definition of a weak man. The paupers and the physically incapacitated are an inevitable charge on society. About them no more need be said. But the weak who constantly arouse the pity of humanitarians and philanthropists are the shiftless, the imprudent, the negligent, the impractical, and the inefficient, or they are the idle, the intemperate, the extravagant, and the vicious. Now the troubles of these persons are constantly forced upon public attention, as if they and their interests deserved especial consideration, and a great portion of all organized and unorganized effort for the common welfare consists in attempts to relieve these classes of people. I do not wish to be understood now as saying that nothing ought to be done for these people by those who are stronger and wiser. That is not my point. What I want to do is to point out the thing which is overlooked and the error which is made ill all these charitable efforts. The notion is accepted as if it were not open to any question that if you help the inefficient and vicious you may gain something for society or you may not, but that you lose nothing. This is a complete mistake. Whatever capital you divert to the support of a shiftless and good-for-nothing person is so much diverted from some other employment, and that means from somebody else. I would spend any conceivable amount of zeal and eloquence if I possessed it to try to make people grasp this idea. Capital is force. If it goes one way it cannot go another. If you give a loaf to a pauper you cannot give the same loaf to a laborer. Now this other man who would have got it but for the charitable sentiment which bestowed it on a worthless member of society is the Forgotten Man. The philanthropists and humanitarians have their minds all full of the wretched and miserable whose case appeals to compassion, attacks the sympathies, takes possession of the imagination, and excites the emotions. They push on towards the quickest and easiest remedies and they forget the real victim."

http://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/rbannis1/AIH19th/Sumner.Forgotten.html

35 posted on 07/25/2011 1:28:45 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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I will be the brave conservative! All you limo-socialist - chip in now! Do your duty to Hitler, Marx and Mao!


36 posted on 07/25/2011 1:30:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: unixfox

How about a brave conservative asks every wealthy liberal to cough up 50% of their net worth and leave all the welathy conservatives alone so they can use their wealth to create jobs and products that the American people want?

The liberals need to step up and lead by example.


37 posted on 07/25/2011 1:33:26 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: jfd1776
Pelosi, Kerry, and Warren Buffett are rich. I'm waiting for them to lead the way by voluntarily paying higher taxes.
38 posted on 07/25/2011 1:34:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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In one European country the rich pay 72%. In income tax, that is. All the other taxes are not included in that.

I bet you think THAT’s fair, huh?


39 posted on 07/25/2011 1:35:58 PM PDT by bergmeid (FUBO)
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To: Batrachian

I should clarify, in my post to you BO = Bill Oriely.


40 posted on 07/25/2011 1:38:07 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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