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Progressivism: Distortion of the gospel and the roots of social justice
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Posted on 07/24/2011 8:51:30 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

When I hear/see someone like this start talking about things like 'biblical justice' and 'social justice'; Quote:

We have to be very clear about this. Voluntary, faith-based initiatives with no resources, no resources to make any serious difference in poverty reduction, is not adequate. That's a charity that falls far short of Biblical justice.

The first thing I wonder is where did an idea such as this ever start? Well, the true genesis may not be something any of us could ever uncover, it probably started over in europe somewhere, but here in america, in the progressive era, there is an answer to that.

I'm sure many of you out there know of Father Coughlin's use of social justice for big government ends, which is where I considered looking first. But once I came across the term 'social gospel', I realized that it went back further.

Sometimes small ideas are born in small places and grow large, it's hard to say. But at the very least, I can pin it to one of among the first major voices. Richard Ely, a man who may be the closest thing there is to a founding father of american progressivism, has these things to say:

Introduction to Political Economy. (1889)

Public and Private Responsibilities.— It is seen in general that there is no limit to the right of the State, the sovereign power, save its ability to do good. Duty, function, is co-extensive with power. The State is a moral person. It may be further said in general that the fundamental principle, the basis of the economic life of modem nations, is individual responsibility. It is designed that each grown person should feel that the welfare of himself and of his family, if he has one, rests upon himself. The State enters where his powers are insufficient, or we may express it better in this way : for the attainment of certain ends he finds it advantageous to co-operate with his fellows through town, city. State, federal government, and the performance of public duties as well as private duties is helpful in the development of the individual and of the race.

Social Aspects of Christianity, and Other Essays‎. (1889)

I take this as my thesis : Christianity is primarily concerned with this world, and it is the mission of Christianity to bring to pass here a kingdom of righteousness and to rescue from the evil one and redeem all our social relations.

The Social Law of Service. (1896)

Family, Church, and State are frequently mentioned together as the three pre-eminently divine institutions known to man. It is claimed by some that the State is the chief institution of these three, and that if we select one institution as above all others divine it must be the State. Such a comparison manifestly cannot be understood too literally. If several institutions are established by God, it can hardly be strictly true that one is more divine than another. What is meant is this : That God works through the State in carrying out His purposes more universally than through any other institution ; that it takes the first place among His instrumentalities.

And there you have it. Classic statist. Doesn't sound all to different from Wallis to me. The state imposes, where humanity's efforts just aren't enough. Back in Ely's day, their key phrase was 'social gospel' instead of 'social justice', but that's how the progressives always do it, isn't it? Once the old calling card wears out, just issue a new one and keep the same old ideas. And why does it keep working? How many of us know our history? I'm certainly not interested in being anybody's oracle here, my opinion can't be 100% correct all the time any more than yours or anybody elses can be. That's not why I do this. If anything, getting a handful of things wrong might be advantageous, as it may get modern progressives to become defensive.

I want to show you some places were to look, that most of us haven't considered. I want to show you what they've said, where they said it, and let you pick and choose what to read for yourself. Hopefully, one day, we'll all openly discuss the progressives' own history, which is the last thing they'd ever want to happen.


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1 posted on 07/24/2011 8:51:39 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Social Justice is a Jello phrase that cannot be nailed down.
To -O- it means the redistribution of wealth, or as Churchill stated, mutually shared misery.

Similar to Zero, many Blacks think it means indemnification for slavery for injustices they never suffered.

To some American Indians it may mean scalping the descendants
of the Buffalo Soldiers who perpetrated atrocities... then again it was war.

“Long knives come, kill our women, rape our buffalo.”
/broma

2 posted on 07/24/2011 9:08:38 PM PDT by Tuketu (Socialize the Legal System. Then we are all equal before the law.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The irony is the left’s reverence for the “separation of church and state” that they have erected in the popular mind. As a Catholic and a citizen, I resented the hell out of Nancy Pelosi’s pseudo moralizing and quoting of scripture to justify her political whoring (puns intended).


3 posted on 07/25/2011 12:06:42 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Bookmark.


4 posted on 07/25/2011 12:39:56 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: LALALAW
As a Catholic and a citizen, I resented the hell out of Nancy Pelosi’s pseudo moralizing and quoting of scripture to justify her political whoring (puns intended).

I'm a non-denominational Christian who believes that the Bible doesn't need 32,000 different interpretations). The "separation of Church and State" lie has been repeated for so long that otherwise rational people believe it to be true and good. My wife mentioned it in reference to a news story and I had to explain the real deal to her. It's the same with "justice" - the lie is that everyone is socially equal and should have the same rewards. It ignores that the ONLY equality we have is that of God's love. Those that would be gods are the ones who push this crap. Pelosi reminds me of the warnings to/about false prophets....

5 posted on 07/25/2011 4:24:50 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: ProgressingAmerica; Tuketu; Dick Bachert; dajeeps; LALALAW; jonrick46; trebb
To all participants of this thread and list members, If you want on/off my short but hopefully growing list, send me a mail message.

Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their own history.

"If not us, who? If not now, when?"

Me. Now.

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6 posted on 07/29/2011 12:42:19 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Woodrow Wison’s “New Freedom” propaganda piece can be downloaded for free on Kindle.

I couldn’t read the whole thing because it was depressing and embarassing that someone with such twisted logic could not only be believed, but become the leader of the greatest nation on earth.

He goes on and on about enterprise corrupting politics, and how corrupt politics has become because of it; and his conclusion is that enterprise needs regulation. Excuse me, but I think transparency and prison is much better of a remedy for corruption than erroding the 4th and 5th Amendments guaranteeing property rights and due process.

Fast forward to today, that stuff is still more alive than ever and if you want to compete with the big guys in any kind of enterprise, you can get tagged by the political system, your business shut down and your property confiscated without so much as a hearing. And of course those abuses spread into the general public, and individuals are regulated in much the same way; hence the TSA believeing it has the right to either take nude photos of you or stick their hands down your pants before you can get on a plane.


7 posted on 07/29/2011 6:51:28 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: dajeeps

I don’t blame you for not wanting to finish the book. It took a long time to get myself to a place to be willing to constantly read the words of these progressives.

Its even worse recording them. Worst of all is listening to it afterwards.

It’s my voice. Saying this nasty garbage.

But somebody has to do it.

And as you point out, so much of what they said then relates to today. Knowing the progressives history and how they’ve progressed america will surely be helpful in pushing back against today’s progressives.


8 posted on 08/04/2011 1:10:05 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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