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To: Kartographer
I posted this from Chapman on Sunday:

Financial Crimes On Wall Street And The Debt Crisis

This comment jumped out at me:

"All of you subscribers in the EU and UK get your funds out of the bank, now, and into gold and silver coins."

11 posted on 07/20/2011 9:47:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

http://www.moneyteachers.org/gold+confiscation+act.htm


12 posted on 07/20/2011 9:50:18 PM PDT by djf ("Life is never fair...And perhaps it is a good thing for most of us that it is not." Oscar Wilde)
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To: blam; Kartographer

We’re looking into various ways to heat water simply. Hub is going to make some of them (when he finishes the seventy eleven projects he’s in the middle of..)

There’s one he’s particularly interested in that uses an old gas water heater tank and with a bit of welding and this and that, can burn wood. He’s already collected several old hot water heater tanks - we put an ad in the paper and several people called up to give them, they just wanted to get rid of them. I tried a wanted ad on Craigslist but fools thought it was a scam and removed it.

We’ve lived without “real” hot water for most of the last ten years and it’s about time to have it, even without civilization collapse. We heat it in pots on the woodstove when it’s cold, and just heat on the cook stove (electric) in the summer.

Do it yourself hot water heaters:

http://firewoodresource.com/firewood-accessories/wood-fired-hot-water-heater/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlv_ZvKhLE8

http://www.righthouse.co.nz/products/hot-water/wetback

http://www.drillcat.com/cheap.html (The one hub is particularly interested in making)

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/1978-01-01/The-Amazing-500-Wood-Burning-Stove-That-You-Can-Build-for-35-Or-Less.aspx

Various portable on demand propane hot water heaters:

http://www.hotcampshowers.com/zodi_propane_water_heaters

http://www.hotcampshowers.com/eccotemp_tankless_water_heaters

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Camp-Chef-Triton-Hot-Water-On-Demand/10363535?sourceid=1500000000000003260410&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=10363535

http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Triton-Water-Heater/dp/tags-on-product/B001J4AU2E

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Zodi-Instant-Water-Heater-and-Hot-Shower/4698021

http://www.hotcampshowers.com/eccotemp_tankless_water_heaters

http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Triton-Water-Heater/dp/tags-on-product/B001J4AU2E

(Some of the above a duplicate kinds but give an idea of prices and Amazon at least has reviews. I hope some is useful; I did see a Coleman but it just had a faucet for the hot water, shower attachments had to be purchased separately and it was around $250!)


17 posted on 07/20/2011 10:03:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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