Posted on 07/20/2011 5:07:08 PM PDT by curth
This is actually the second Hot Air straw poll this month. The first one showed virtually the same results as this one, Sarah Palin crushing all comers, but the increasingly anti-conservative, anti-Palin website chose to spin some of her best results ever, as somehow a bad thing, and I was laughing so hard I simply couldnt type a response to Patrick Ishmaels drivel, and didnt publish the results.
Heres a link to that survey, you compare it with the latest, and find that Sarahs support is once again stronger than ever. And, once again, Ishmael looked for an angle, so we get this nonsense in the new poll results:
The Approval results are in. Leading the pack when Presidential supporters are removed is Paul Ryan, followed by Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin, John Bolton and Herman Cain.
Now Paul Ryan, whose budget plan is supported by Sarah . she was the first to get on board . is not a candidate for President, and has said in no uncertain terms that he will not be a candidate, and yet .
Ishmael uses a plot device known as average without presidential support to create his little narrative. In other words, he bounces those who approve of a candidate, but do not support them for president, vs the ratings for the same candidates among those who do support them as a presidential candidate. This is how he is able to show someone who isnt a candidate and will not be a candidate leading all comers, or so he CLAIMS, thus getting the headline he wants. This is a rather meaningless number though.
Either way, among actual and prospective candidates, Sarah Palin is the strongest, and getting stronger. In the presidential vote, out of a long list of 15 candidates [plus "other"] Sarah gets 38% of the vote, with Rick Perry, like Sarah, an undeclared candidate getting 23% of the vote.
Out of actual declared candidates, only Michele Bachmann breaks into double digits with 10% of the vote. Mitt Romney gets a whopping 7% of the vote.
The survey also looks at overall approval. They use a sliding scale 1-7, with 1 being the worst, and 7 being the best or highly approve.
Again, Sarah Palin is far and beyond the leader here with 49% rating her a 7 a highly approve rating. By contrast, out of potential or announced candidates, Rick Perry comes in second with 25%, and Bachmann 22%. The non-candidate, never will be candidate, Paul Ryan has a 30% highly approve rating. So much for Ishmaels meme du jour.
Hot Air also has a couple of individual match-ups.
The most telling is the Palin/Bachmann contest. In the survey taken over the Fouth of July weekend it was Palin 52.18% Bachmann 47.82%. Now that folks have had almost a month of watching Bachmann, being Bachmann, the results are quite different. Its now Palin 62% Bachmann 38%. It seems the more people see of Bachmann, the less inclined they are to support her, at least among Hot Airs readership, 49% of which call themselves conservative with another 32% calling themselves very conservative.
HA also matches Rick Perry up with Tim Pawlenty, with Perry getting 78% over Pawlentys 22%. No surprise there.
In a Palin vs Perry match-up Sarah beats Rick 52% to 48% Which is the exact number Sarah was beating Bachmann by at the first of the month. I cant quite bring myself to call my own governor a flavor of the month but once people see Rick Perry in action, and look into his record, look for his numbers to go down, though not as bad as Bachmanns. [if he actually runs]
As always, straw polls are what they are, and any poll this early is little more than interesting entertainment. But they do show trends, and Sarah Palin has crushed all comers in these Hot Air polls since last November. In fact, her support only gets stronger. Hot Air has taken a leftward lurch, and become more of a GOP establishment house organ, since its founder Michelle Malkin sold the blog to the Salem group, but their readers are politically savvy and conservative. They are a very good representation of the base of the Republican Party.
The take away from the latest poll is no one is excited about the current Republican field. Its very weak and has no one that can rally the troops to fight the Obama regime. None of the current declared candidates can beat Barack Obama. Rick Perry will definitely make a splash should he join the fray, but as people realize he is more of an establishment candidate, Donald Rumsfeld has been advising him, and Karl Rove is downright giddy at the prospect of Perry running, the bloom will come off the rose.
Sarah Palin is the only person who can rally the base and reach out to independents. Her record of governing in Alaska shows she knows how to work with a very diverse group to get incredible things done. As this latest polling shows once again, Sarah Palin has a base of support that would follow her through hell with a bucket of gasoline in each hand if thats what it took. While its likely conservatives will hold their nose and vote for whoever the nominee is, should it not be Sarah, or even Rick Perry, folks will actually get out and campaign, knock doors, make phone calls, and so on, for Sarah Palin!
Before we go further, here are the results:
Ishmael also said this over the Fourth:
Whoever emerges between Perry and Bachmann will have the electoral advantage on Palin, who it appears has serious electoral maneuvering problems even among the base. Palins strength is the excitement of her supporters and the high commitment of those supporters to her. Her weakness is, simply, that there wont be enough of them to carry her through the current field of primary candidates. I wrote back in 2009 that Palins most likely role in the 2012 cycle would be as a coronator. I still believe thats basically right.
Ahh, the old Sarah Palin should be a cheerleader and drag someone elses sorry ass across the finish line ploy. If you are so weak you need a kingmaker to get you through a campaign, you are too weak to be a king. Anyone who can be a kingmaker, can damned sure be the king.[or QUEEN]
From his ramblings, its obvious Ishmael doesnt even reed his own polls! Though he stopped asking the question once he learned the answer [over and over] his polling found that Palin supporters are strong and unwavering. Recent Gallup polling shows 52% Of Sarah Palins Supporters Certain No Chance Theyll Change Romney? Only 30% which backs up the results of earlier HA polls.
It seems not to matter to Ishmael that Palin has convincingly won every poll hes taken as well. Ishmael requires all participants to include their zip code, and was publishing a nifty map that shows where a candidates support came from. It always showed Sarahs support strong nationwide. This is likely why he no longer publishes the map, since his own research destroys the meme hes trying to create.
Oh, and back to the cheerleader thing. You know who the cheerleaders are out of this bunch, actual cheerleaders?
Michele Bachman:
Rick Perry:
(THE AGGIELAND)
Rick Perry, far right, in the 1971 Texas A&M yearbook, The Aggieland. This is a photo of the Aggie Yell Leaders.
By contrast, Sarah Palin was point guard and co-captain of her team, and took the team to the state championship, scoring the winning shot. [on a broken foot no less] Shes number 22 in the photo:
Can we finally put this cheerleader nonsense to bed? Sarah Palin is a born leader. She successfully led a ball team, a city, and a state. Shes a real winner, and a champion. Winners become champions because they know how to win. Sarah Palin knows exactly how to beat Barack Obama and win the 2012 election. Better still, she has the skill to govern the nation once she gets there.
I don’t Have access to her ping list on this computer!
GO SARAH!
Rock on, Sarah - you’re the poet of our hearts - Rock on!
Sarah Palin was recognized as a true star by the Left at the Republican convention when she gave her first speech. The fact that she has not only survived but thrived during their relentless and baseless attacks since shows she’s also a true champion!
Palin ‘12!!!
Michele Bachmann
Rick Perry, far right, in the 1971 Texas A&M yearbook, The Aggieland. This is a photo of the Aggie Yell Leaders
By contrast, Sarah Palin was point guard and co-captain of her team, and took the team to the state championship, scoring the winning shot. [on a broken foot no less] Shes number 22 in the photo:
But, but the MSM keeps on telling me that Palin shouldn’t get in because Michele Bachman already has all the conservative and tea part support locked up! They can’t be wrong? Can they?
No, Gov. Palin and Rep. Bachmann have privately agreed on an “understanding”. This makes sense for both of them.
Can you imagine a debate where Michele and Sarah (and others) go against each other?
This will not happen, because Palin is not going to run.
It was interesting, he didn’t go into much analysis today. CRP to him to task with his last poll analysis. I wish I could post at HA.
“Lot’s of hot links at site of article.”
Off topic, I know, but do they have brisket there too?
Um, how do you know this? Are you her campaign manager? I don’t think Bachmann and Palin are in the same friendly camp anymore especially after the Ed Rollins slam on her and the non apology apology that MB had him issue. Bachmann as evidenced from this poll, her many gaffes, anti Catholic church, and paper thin resume would be a disaster for the GOP. Sarah isn’t running until she says so, no one knows what she’s going to do except for her family and those people who’re close to her.
The list is at the bottom of my FR profile page.
Now how on earth do you know THAT?
(((((PING)))))
YES SHE CAN! YES SHE CAN! YES SHE CAN!
Wed July 20, 10 a.m. PDTRepublican Politics: Romney, Palin, Bachmann And Perry Vie For The Lead
With months to go before the first nominating event, the contest for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination is a real horserace, with four candidates two announced and two unannounced vying for the lead. In the latest Economist/YouGov Poll, Texas Governor Rick Perry and former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (both unannounced) are closely matched with two declared candidates, Minnesota Congresswomen Michele Bachmann and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.
Romney 14%
Palin 13%
Bachmann 12%
Perry 12%
Cain 9%
Giuliani 4%
Santorum 4%
Paul 4%
Gingrich 4%
Pawlenty 2%
Huntsman 2
http://today.yougov.com/news/2011/07/20/republican-politics-romney-palin-bachmann-and-perr/
He/she doesn’t know. He/she hopes.
I know Sarah is the true favorite, even though MSM/REP est and their joint stable of pollsters want us to think otherwise.
I have voted in this poll as long as it has been running I believe, If this guy really wants Sarah to lose in this poll, he is bound to find a way. So when he has her losing the poll, remember that was the aim.
Would not be hard to manufacture any result one wanted. Just ask NBC/WSJ or PPP or Fox or any of them, they are all operated by either MSM or Rep establishment.
Just look at the disgraceful NBC/WSJ from yesterday or so, simply left out Gov Palin for the first time ever, but inserted Perry. Listened to Up Chuck Todd today talk about the poll, never even mentioned the name Palin and/or that she was left off it for the first time.
At one point he refers to Trump as leading the poll at one point... Perry and Trump never were official candidates at any time.
You can get any result you like and the masses generally fall for it.
Much of Bachmann`s support was totally manufactured by MSM/Rep est, but I think some have fallen for it.
Foolish ramble...
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