[re_tail20]

Love the last paragraph:

“But notice the mention of “a few weeks” by Boehner. Apparently, the speaker of the House doesn’t think much of Obama’s insistence on a deal by Friday. In fact, nothing that Obama says these days seems to make a difference. The White House, in fact, is entirely irrelevant.”

[goodnesswins]

Just REMEMBER.....EVERY Democrat, including the “O” voted AGAINST RAISING the DEBT level....in 2006!

[Siena Dreaming]

Two options are possible. In the first a commission styled on the base closing commission, made up of congressmen and senators, would identify cuts and the House and Senate could stage an up or down vote. The number of such commissioners and the timing of the votes are under discussion. The second option is to graft on top of that a set of cuts ($1.5 trillion or so) identified in the Biden meetings.

Looks like they might still be trying to get to $2.5 T.

Obama is so transparent in not willing to do a shorter term deal for $1.5 T. This is what he got in such a tizzy about the other day when Cantor suggested it.

Reason is he does not want to debate cuts again because they are showing him up to be a tyrannical imbecile...he wants to push the whole discussion of cutting the deficit back to 2013.

[hosepipe]

Until House and Senate republicans start speaking the truth.. nothing will be gained..
If the Potus and democrats wanted to deal they would have a budget.. they don’t..

They(house) need to do what they do.. pass and submit a bill/budget to the Senate.. with cuts and everything..

Let the Senate absorb all the angst..
The Potus is just a loose cannon...

[BuckeyeTexan]

Boehner needs to leave the table. As long as he negotiates, Obama and Reid control public opinion by portraying Republicans as uncooperative. Boehner needs to pass a bill with only cuts and closed tax loopholes. Reid will be forced to take action in the Senate. Obama will be forced to cave or take responsibility.

[Mach9]

http://keithhennessey.com/2011/07/14/understanding-the-mcconnell-debt-limit-proposal/

[Razzz42]

I see Congress is rated about 10th (so far) on the list of ‘do nothing’ Congresses judge by how many new laws they pass. (A good thing)

Where is the talk of eliminating ‘czars’ and doing away with O’bummer care? And what, the ATF gets a free pass? A pointless war(s) continue unabated.

Seems like it would be easier to impeach the nut case and get on with our lives in an orderly fashion.

The Republicans are leaderless, no one coming forward to lead and state the obvious. Guess they are to worried about being re-elected and can’t see past that future.

[Wuli]

The problem is that neither Harry Reid or Obama wants to make a concrete proposal.

They both simply want to reject any Republican proposal until their failure to actually engage in working out any plan, leads to “default” and a Federal shutdown;

with which they can then set about starting their 2012 election campaigns blaming the GOP for a “failure to compromise” when factually

neither Obama or Reid - the Executive branch or the Senate leader - have made any material budget plan proposal with any specificity that can be written and offered as legislation - other than Obama’s initial budget proposal which was DOA in the House and rejected in the Senate in a vote that obtained majorities of Democrats and Republicans in that rejection.

Since then, there has been nothing of substance that has been offered by either Reid or the White House that could be held up for debate and consideration in Congress - NOTHING.

The House has done it’s job - approving budget legislation with spending cuts. Reid has never brought it up for consideration in the Senate.

Obama and Reid have attempted to “negotiate” via public statements behind which have stood no concrete, detailed proposals.

THEY - Reid and Obama - seem to be actually pushing for and favoring default and shutdown.

Obama is maybe thinking that what is needed, for his agenda, is another crisis. So he and Reid hope to be sure they get one.

The problem is that with the state-media - ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC/NBC/NYSlimes/WaPo?LASlimes - operating on their side, they hope to create the crisis and then blame it on the GOP.

We have to try to beat them in both arenas. In Washington, D.C. and in the public consciousness, whether we get to ‘default’ or not.

[Popman]

The house needs to put together a bill to raise the debt ceiling just enough to get us to September 2012 right before the elections to keep the pressure on these democrat assholes

Put at least a trillion dollars in cuts pass it on that filthy dog Reid....let him deal with it...in other words pass the hot potato to him and Obama

If it fails.....and we collapse

We start again

[shield]

Jesus told us who Sen. Chuck Schumer is:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

[justa-hairyape]

It is impossible to make a deal with someone who forgets everything he stated during the previous meeting (ie - he was called jello and seems to think his party did well in the last election).

What you need to do is keep meeting minutes and then read the previous meetings minutes at the start of the next meeting.

Then sit back and watch Obama argue with himself.