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You need a plan 'B' because:

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”

1 posted on 07/14/2011 9:06:58 PM PDT by Kartographer
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The news will not go down right away and you will be able to see the deteriotion for a time. One of the best indicators that it’s time to bug out is when you start hearing that firefighters are being shot at. They WILL NOT respond to any calls for service after this, and the ferals will continue to burn down anything that offends them, after stripping it clean of course. Also when police stations are being burned, it’s definitely over. Those police officers that survive will be ordered to a fall back rally point, most likely in the county.

If you stay put in a city residence with the plan to shoot anyone that comes around, plan to burn in it. If the ferals can’t get in it, they will burn it. Remember, historically, fighting in built up areas causes the most casualties than any other enviroment. Line of sight distances are greatly reduced and there is more cover and concealment that an encroaching enemy can use to move up on your city house. They WILL go house to house once they have eliminated law enforcement as a threat. Law enforcement may be tasked in protecting important assets like hospitals, power or water companies or even National Guard armories or Reserve Component units. If the ferals get ahold of several of those, that will make things much more difficult. Expect no mercy or sympathy, social justice will become social revenge for ALL the past injustices, real or percieved.

If you can possibly do it, have a place or a friend outside of the city limits. It can’t hurt to leave early, and be able to go with a majority of gear in less than two hours. If you wait too long, law enforcement and perhaps military, will set up roadblocks from major arteries from the city to the counties and may turn you back. Or attempt to. Others might set up road blocks as well and they will want your gear. It’s best to be gone and set up in your secondary position prior to those being organized.

I have told few close friends that I prep and urge them to do the same. I have also told them that I would turn them away at gunpoint if they show up at my residence begging.

Everyone must prepare, and have some skill set to be useful. The unprepared and useless will starve.


78 posted on 07/15/2011 6:23:29 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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survival ping


80 posted on 07/15/2011 7:06:59 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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Next you will need something to cook on. I recommend one of the Colman multi fuel camp stoves. I have the Peak1 which burns both Coleman fuel and kerosene. These stoves are small, light weight and very energy-efficient. Remember, when using stoves like these indoors the fumes must be vented to the outside, if not carbon monoxide can build up and kill you

We have a Coleman, but we also have sterno stoves (the 2 burner models) and are stockpiling both sterno cans (both sizes) and fuel for the Coleman.

We have been stockpiling bottled water, medicines, canned soups, canned vegetables, canned fruits, and canned beans and meats (protein) for some time now. We have a 6' 2 door cabinet in the basement for just the canned foods-it's almost full.

I remember back in the Reagan administration (not sure 1st or 2nd) reading a letter in the Ann Landers column. A reader told her about discovering a can of tuna that had an expiration date in the Nixon administration! She stated that she'd discarded the can, but wanted to know if it would have been safe to eat. Ann consulted with some chemists, canning operators, FDA staff, etc, and their conclusion was, the food might have deteriorated a little in taste, texture, and vitamin "availability", but it would have been safe. More recently, I saw an article on a grocery store that had gone out of business way back in 1969. Somehow a can of corn from it had gone into storage-don't ask me how or why, it's been a few months. Anyhow, the can was taken to a lab, opened-and the corn inside looked as if it had been canned last month. It was perfectly safe to eat. So I say, regard expiration dates as interesting suggestions, not commandments from God. At least for cans that require a can opener...Not sure if I trust the pop top canned foods as much, and it's getting harder to find the old fashioned, less convenient cans.

I suggest all preppers who NEED their morning coffee make damn' sure they have a camp or stovetop perculator coffee pot, and filters. We made coffee with the stovetop on a sterno stove-it was very hot and very good. I used non dairy creamer with it...With the electric, the creamer just slowly dissolves into the coffee. With the perculator, the creamer disintigrated on coffee impact. It was really impressive to see.

88 posted on 07/15/2011 8:46:30 AM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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Rural survival communities will welcome those with certain skill sets - doctors, nurses, mechanics, etc.


101 posted on 07/15/2011 10:15:50 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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Ping


105 posted on 07/15/2011 11:31:29 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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Interesting info. Good thing for the author that spelling and grammar won’t count for anything in the post-Apocalyptic world.


108 posted on 07/15/2011 12:44:27 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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Most country folks don’t trust outsiders; you will likely be greeted with a load of buckshot and not the cup of fresh coffee and meaningful conversation you hoped for.

So live there full-time and you won't BE an outsider?
143 posted on 07/15/2011 3:08:24 PM PDT by Ellendra (God feeds the birds of the air, but he doesn't throw it in their nests.)
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BFL...


144 posted on 07/15/2011 3:15:18 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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Y2K syndrome?


170 posted on 07/15/2011 5:05:56 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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bump for later


210 posted on 07/16/2011 9:07:45 AM PDT by Ditter
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Here’s another possible disaster scenario in the making now.

Outcasts:Tonight Tens Of Thousands Of Formerly Middle Class Americans Will Be Sleeping In Their Cars
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2749652/posts

There’s a clue for anyone in open and notorious use of government regulations (including local) or support from foreign communist and Islamist nations against one’s own countrymen in lieu of traditional competition: that is, invention, design, building and continued hard work related to domestic production (manufacturing).


236 posted on 07/16/2011 10:38:47 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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