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To: Nachum

Just a silly question ....

If this land floods every couple years, and every couple years the US Gov’t has to pay to have the flood damage fixed up - wouldn’t it eventually make sense for the US Gov’t to simply buy the land; so no one else builds in a flood zone, and then files a flood claim every couple years.

Not knowing the specifics, as the paragraph had very little detail - just a question.


6 posted on 07/13/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
I don't think this land floods very couple of years. The land was flooded intentionally to save a minority community elsewhere. Others who know better will hopefully correct or confirm my post.
7 posted on 07/13/2011 10:16:41 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: mewzilla

Bump for later.


8 posted on 07/13/2011 10:19:53 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Hodar

“wouldn’t it eventually make sense for the US Gov’t to simply buy the land; so no one else builds in a flood zone, and then files a flood claim every couple years.”

And do what, rent it back to the farmers? I think that is one sure way to get control of the food supply. Especially as the government is trying very hard to just take over private land under the guise of ‘Green’ programs, or ‘Smart’ programs. These are population control measures under the UN’s ‘Agenda 21’ IMHO.

Here are my miles on the subject if you would like:

http://www.nachumlist.com/agenda21.htm


13 posted on 07/13/2011 10:33:29 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Hodar

Well, yes and no; it’s weird. The only reason the Feds would be involved is because people took out flood insurance. There’s plenty of places in Texas that flood every other year or so; but no one builds there....when it’s dry they graze cattle and raise coastal bermuda; when it floods they move the cattle but there aren’t any “structures” to insure.


16 posted on 07/13/2011 10:40:15 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Hodar; SoCal Pubbie

Taken from further down the http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/feds-buying-up-farmland-they-flooded-soros-in-on-it/ page

There are folks who are confused as to how the situation with regards to the Missouri River dams could be the fault of the Army Corps of Engineers. After all, isn’t the amount of rainfall an Act of God?

This is not a FLASH flooding dynamic. This isn’t happening because it rained three feet in 24 hours. The largest factor in this flooding is the runoff coming from the melting of the snowpack in the Rocky Mountains. The snowpack is precisely measured and the number of acre-feet of water that will be drained into the Missouri River basin each spring is a precisely known value. If you don’t believe me, pull up the website for ANY ski resort. They will have DETAILED snowpack depth data updated on a near-daily basis. One could work up usable data based just off of the ski resorts – but we also have frequent and detailed snowpack measurements coming from the National Forests and National Parks. I am hard-pressed to think of a meteorological dataset that has the precision, reliability and lead time that the runoff from the snowpack has. The Army Corps of Engineers knew to the acre-foot how much water was coming, and when it would arrive (summer tends to happen at roughly the same time each year).

Knowing that we had a RECORD snowpack this year, the ACoE should have opened the Missouri dam system up starting early in the spring so as to gently and gradually draw-down the reservoirs and give each dam system enough slack to absorb the snowpack runoff. They intentionally did not do this, and citing “wildlife habitat” concerns in collusion with the Marxist-Environmentalists, they kept the reservoirs full, thus ensuring that when the snowpack runoff arrived, it would have nowhere to go. Again, this was all 100% unnecessary and 100% intentional. I don’t care how many C- affirmative action hires they have, there is absolutely no way that this was a function of being “surprised” by water that has been measured and sitting in the Rocky Mountains for MONTHS. Snowpack of Quantity X inches yields runoff of Quantity Y acre-feet. It is a liner function that any Beavis or Butthead could have looked up on a table.

I find myself worried not just about farmground, but about low-lying residential areas in both Omaha and Kansas City.

Here is a citation regarding the ACoE buyout bids on flooded farmground: KC Star Citation Here

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Hat tip Southern Nationalist Network


21 posted on 07/13/2011 10:49:41 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: Hodar; Nachum

“Just a silly question ....

If this land floods every couple years, and every couple years the US Gov’t has to pay to have the flood damage fixed up - wouldn’t it eventually make sense for the US Gov’t to simply buy the land; so no one else builds in a flood zone, and then files a flood claim every couple years.

Not knowing the specifics, as the paragraph had very little detail - just a question.”

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I dunno, this part sounded mighty persuasive...

“The largest factor in this flooding is the runoff coming from the melting of the snowpack in the Rocky Mountains. The snowpack is precisely measured and the number of acre-feet of water that will be drained into the Missouri River basin each spring is a precisely known value. If you don’t believe me, pull up the website for ANY ski resort. They will have DETAILED snowpack depth data updated on a near-daily basis. One could work up usable data based just off of the ski resorts – but we also have frequent and detailed snowpack measurements coming from the National Forests and National Parks. I am hard-pressed to think of a meteorological dataset that has the precision, reliability and lead time that the runoff from the snowpack has. The Army Corps of Engineers knew to the acre-foot how much water was coming, and when it would arrive (summer tends to happen at roughly the same time each year).

Knowing that we had a RECORD snowpack this year, the ACoE should have opened the Missouri dam system up starting early in the spring so as to gently and gradually draw-down the reservoirs and give each dam system enough slack to absorb the snowpack runoff. They intentionally did not do this, and citing “wildlife habitat” concerns in collusion with the Marxist-Environmentalists, they kept the reservoirs full, thus ensuring that when the snowpack runoff arrived, it would have nowhere to go. Again, this was all 100% unnecessary and 100% intentional. I don’t care how many C- affirmative action hires they have, there is absolutely no way that this was a function of being “surprised” by water that has been measured and sitting in the Rocky Mountains for MONTHS. Snowpack of Quantity X inches yields runoff of Quantity Y acre-feet. It is a liner function that any Beavis or Butthead could have looked up on a table.”

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In other words, estimating and preparing for the Spring Melt is not rocket science. This gives details that the gumming deliberately planned and exacerbated the flooding.

It’s well known that Fish & Wildlife and EPA has, since the nineties, been working hand-in-glove with the likes of The Nature Conservancy to tie up private land with newly designated endangered species so the greenies can buy it up for a song.


29 posted on 07/13/2011 11:22:19 AM PDT by sinanju
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