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To: 1234; Fred Nerks; David; LucyT; Chief Engineer; DiogenesLamp; little jeremiah

>>>>...I would more likely believe that the grandparents tax return WILL show little barry (or maybe he had yet another different name then) on their tax return because the grandmother leaked that they adopted this orphan boy after his mother died in 1970.

>>WHA? PLS. elaborate on this.

OK, Fred Nerks said this in April 2011...
...in 1982 when Virginia Geoldner and her husband and children visited the Dunhams, Madelyn told the Goeldners that the boy they had been looking after, who was now on the mainland at college, had been living with them SINCE HIS MOTHER DIED IN 1970.
here...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=128#128

...talk here was about Barry’s REAL mother named Anna, (not Ann, or Stanley Ann)...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=132#132
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=133#133

and catch David’s excellent post here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=182#182

...but this 2008 story is confusing;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2162856/posts
From FR in Jan 2009, (a reprint of the Maumee Monitor from Nov 13, 2008),
it also quotes that Barry’s mother died in 1970:
“Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”

...But it also implies that Stanley Ann was his mother, who died an early death.

Most however historical records say Stanley Ann died in 1995 of ovarian cancer.

It is my guess that around the election, Virginia was ‘coached’ on how to re-tell that story.

We’ll have to ask Fred when he gets back from vacation, what he knows about the 1982 statement by Virginia Goeldner, and what he thinks of the 2008 variation.


97 posted on 07/12/2011 9:59:39 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater; GGMac; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Plummz; Fantasywriter; ColdOne; ...
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Check out # 97, and please don't miss the link to an important post written by David.

David's post concludes with this statement:

So on the record, it is fair to believe that Stanley Ann or someone using her name had a child in Mombasa who is no longer to be found anywhere on the public record. Perhaps having died.

That at some future date, Stanley Ann and her parents became custodians and later adoptive surrogates for another child who is substituted into the Obama record.

Who that child is and where he came from is not to be found in any part of the record other than his first hand statements that he was born in Kenya.

Here's the link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=182#182

Thanks, Future Useless Eater. Good research.

Thanks to David, too.

101 posted on 07/12/2011 11:12:43 PM PDT by LucyT
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