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1 posted on 07/07/2011 2:15:01 PM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101
I would look for more ATF field offices to be revealed as virtual weaponry depots for enemies of the United States.

I seem to remember something about a civilian force that was as well financed and equipped as the military.

2 posted on 07/07/2011 2:19:06 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: radar101
Wow, I never responded to a psychic before...

First, as I "tweeted" on June 24th, ATF Director Kenneth Melson has indeed spilled his guts and testified on July 4th

3 posted on 07/07/2011 2:19:21 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: radar101
Sedition, treason, anti-second amendment conspiracy theories not withstanding, their is a much simpler explanation. Someone is making money on this deal. Follow the money. Ollie North did it for Reagan and the contras, why wouldn't a Marxist do it for the lefties?
5 posted on 07/07/2011 2:22:57 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: radar101

ping. I’m going to do some of my own digging. I distinctly recall Clinton and others talking up gun control because our weapons were finding their way into the hands of Mexican gangs.


6 posted on 07/07/2011 2:25:21 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: radar101
This is devastating.

I especially like this part:

2. Now we know why Hillary Clinton and Obama were falling all over themselves to support and prop-up the Honduran Marxist dictator-wannabe, Manuel Zelaya back in 2009. I never could figure out why they would create such blatantly unflattering, pro-Marxist optics for the Obama regime for a small country like Honduras. Now it all makes perfect sense. Zelaya attempted to overthrow the Honduran constitution and install himself as dictator for life, a la Hugo Chavez. The Honduran Congress AND Supreme Court followed their Constitutional Rule of Law to the letter and removed Zelaya. Within hours Obama and Clinton were threatening Honduras and demanding that the Marxist dictator Zelaya be re-installed. Now we know why. Obama and Clinton were arming Zelaya and were coordinating with Zelaya to run arms through Honduras. Presumably the deal was that some of the arms would stay with Zelaya and most would move into Mexico from the South. Then, Obama and Clinton could "find" U.S. guns in Southern Mexico and Central America, and thus use these optics to bolster their false contention that "90%" of Mexican guns were sourced directly from the U.S. "See? U.S. guns are all the way down in Chiapas State and Guatemala. U.S. guns are everywhere! The Second Amendment simply is not feasible any longer!"

7 posted on 07/07/2011 2:26:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: radar101

I’m getting really confused. She is talking about Gunwalker. Others here are posting that this is DIFFERENT from Fast and Furious.

Someone straighten me out?


8 posted on 07/07/2011 2:35:03 PM PDT by DManA
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To: radar101
Ann wrote this so well, and as far as I know it is not out of bounds to post the entire article she wrote, so here it is:

Gunwalker: Laying it all out.
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - July 7, AD 2011 10:34 AM MST

Two big developments have emerged in Gunwalker. First, as I "tweeted" on June 24th, ATF Director Kenneth Melson has indeed spilled his guts and testified on July 4th before Congressional investigators. Gunwalker goes all the way to Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and that walking manifestation of Incubus and Succubus, Barack Obama and Valerie Jarrett. Further, Mike Vanderboegh and David Codrea over at Sipsey Street Irregulars have broken news this morning that Holder/Clinton/Obama-Jarrett also were walking guns out of Florida into Honduras. Here's the money quote:

"There are emails in existence where (Special Agent in Charge Virginia) O’Brien has advised those involved that Tampa does not have to report their walked guns because Tampa FD is not a part of Southwest Border or Project Gunrunner."

Click Here for the full citation.

Whoopsie. I guess the "home office" did know all about Gunwalker, told other offices about it, and set up similar schemes with other ATF offices.

Multiple points:

1. Don't kid yourselves. This Obama regime gunwalking business is obviously going on all over the country. Don't think for a second that it was "just Tampa" in addition to the Mexican border. I would look for more ATF field offices to be revealed as virtual weaponry depots for enemies of the United States.

2. Now we know why Hillary Clinton and Obama were falling all over themselves to support and prop-up the Honduran Marxist dictator-wannabe, Manuel Zelaya back in 2009. I never could figure out why they would create such blatantly unflattering, pro-Marxist optics for the Obama regime for a small country like Honduras. Now it all makes perfect sense. Zelaya attempted to overthrow the Honduran constitution and install himself as dictator for life, a la Hugo Chavez. The Honduran Congress AND Supreme Court followed their Constitutional Rule of Law to the letter and removed Zelaya. Within hours Obama and Clinton were threatening Honduras and demanding that the Marxist dictator Zelaya be re-installed. Now we know why. Obama and Clinton were arming Zelaya and were coordinating with Zelaya to run arms through Honduras. Presumably the deal was that some of the arms would stay with Zelaya and most would move into Mexico from the South. Then, Obama and Clinton could "find" U.S. guns in Southern Mexico and Central America, and thus use these optics to bolster their false contention that "90%" of Mexican guns were sourced directly from the U.S. "See? U.S. guns are all the way down in Chiapas State and Guatemala. U.S. guns are everywhere! The Second Amendment simply is not feasible any longer!"

3. Mexican president Felipe Calderon has also parroted the Obama/Clinton fake statistics claiming that "90%" of the guns in Mexico came from the U.S. This strongly implies that the Obama regime colluded with Mexico City on this Gunwalker action with the objective of using the resulting bloodshed to suspend the Second Amendment and disarm the people of the United States.

THIS IS TREASON. This is the epitome of treason. The Obama/Clinton machine has directly coordinated with outside governments to overthrow the Constitution of the United States, and has facilitated the invasion of the United States by a de facto non-uniformed Mexican military in the form of narco-gangs, who, it is argued, are the real power in Mexico City already.

4. This is also textbook SEDITION. In attempting to create optics that implicated the Second Amendment to the Constitution as being responsible for arming narco-terrorists and the resulting mass murder, the Obama/Clinton machine has engaged in attempted insurrection against the established lawful order, namely the Constitution. They have subversively attempted to stir up rebellion against the Constitution by fraudulently stirring up commotion against the Constitution. This "commotion" took the form of the calculated murder of hundreds of Mexican civilians, law enforcement officers and regular military and the murder of at least two U.S. law enforcement officers.

5. Obama personally acknowledged these acts of treason and sedition when he told Sarah Brady on March 30, 2011 that gun control in the U.S. was coming, but that "we have to go through a few processes. Under the radar."

Nothing short of criminal arrest and trial is morally acceptable for Obama, Jarrett, Hillary Clinton and Holder. Every one of these people should spend the rest of their lives in Florence, Colorado. Since Obama appears to not be a citizen of the U.S., but rather a dual citizen of the U.K. and Indonesia, he should be tried as a non-state, non-uniformed enemy combatant. The rest should be tried for treason, sedition and murder.

9 posted on 07/07/2011 2:39:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: radar101

Very eccentric use of the word “optics”. Never seen it used like that before.


11 posted on 07/07/2011 2:39:52 PM PDT by DManA
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To: radar101

I was trying to place where I’d seen Barnhardt before. Then I remembered she did some very good YouTube pieces. eg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xqtYkd2gCs


15 posted on 07/07/2011 2:49:25 PM PDT by DManA
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To: radar101; FatherofFive
Where are todays Woodward and Bernstein? Who is going to ask,"What did the pResident know, and when did he know it?

No one will dare to oppose "The One"

This will die a quiet death

25 posted on 07/07/2011 3:37:07 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: onyx; butterdezillion; jeremiah

FYI - Obama’s Chief of Staff Dailey keeps a stealthy round of trips back and forth between Chicago and the White House. He seems to be running the government now and I suspect the puppet masters are in Chicago, deeply involved in the illegal narcotics trade.

I strongly recommend reading the links associated with this thread - politically connected and powerful people are involved, that is obvious. Who exactly they are...?


38 posted on 07/07/2011 8:38:57 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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