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http://weekendlibertarian.blogspot.com/2011/06/dutch-admission-marijuana-isnt-so-soft.html
1 posted on 06/28/2011 4:10:43 PM PDT by AustralianConservative
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To: AustralianConservative
Ooooh people exercising freedom about what they close to ingest
what a concept
2 posted on 06/28/2011 4:15:41 PM PDT by jrg
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Libertarian god of recreational drugs ping!


4 posted on 06/28/2011 4:30:11 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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It would be nice if the article had quantified the increase in “attacks on family businesses.” I suspect that the real problem is simply the increased medical expenses the state has to pay. If that is the case then the problem is with the welfare state rather than the drug laws.

I wonder how the negative economic impact of legal canibus use compares to the cost (on a per captia basis) of the police state the US has created to combat drugs.


5 posted on 06/28/2011 4:30:15 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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“Now, a Dutch commission has found that hashish and marijuana on sale in the Netherlands contain around 18 percent of THC, the main psychoactive substance, and advised the health minister that anything above 15 percent put drugs on a par with heroin or cocaine. “

At what percent does alcohol become on a par with heroin or cocaine?


8 posted on 06/28/2011 4:36:57 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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“...anything above 15 percent put drugs on a par with heroin or cocaine.”

As someone who did a lot of stupid stuff in young adulthood, I found cocaine to be the mildest of the drugs, at least from a mental standpoint. You can certainly disguise it much more easily than marijuana. Acid was the worst of the drugs I tried. Never tried heroin.


9 posted on 06/28/2011 4:37:00 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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Now, a Dutch commission has found that hashish and marijuana on sale in the Netherlands contain around 18 percent of THC, the main psychoactive substance, and advised the health minister that anything above 15 percent put drugs on a par with heroin or cocaine.

That is such nonsense. The idea that the potency of dope changes its essential nature to something like cocaine could only be believed by somebody that has never used either.

Yep, in the old days pot didn't tend to be as strong as now. So back then, kids took 6 hits to get to the exact same place they get now on 2. And not a single one of them ever suffered a heart attack or respiratory failure in the process, then or now.

Silly refer madness never goes completely away. Some people just seem unable to cope with varying dangers associated with varying substances.

The ability for cocaine, heroine, and other hard drugs to severely damage or end a life in a short time is undeniable. You just can't say that about pot without looking foolish trying. So you are reduced to:

"It will make you nuts, seiously. And did you heart that somebody said that crime went up somewhere once in Holland? Really, it did. Can't tie any particular crime to any particular pothead, but stats are stats. And worst of all, of you keep toking like that for 30 years you will get sick and die in another 30 years maybe, maybe not. Oh and did I mention you might be lazy, live in your mom's basement, and have a loser job? That sure beats slab at the morgue that other drugs send you to. But still, it's just as bad because my anti-drug feelings insist that drugs are drugs, so it must be."

21 posted on 06/28/2011 10:16:42 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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Now for some crime facts:

"Approximately 170 murders were committed in the Netherlands in 2010, a slight decrease from 2009."

http://www.denhaag.nl/de/to/Population-of-The-Hague-rising.htm

That works out to a murder rate of just over 1 per 100,000 population. Compare that to the US murder rate of 5 per 100,000

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

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Let's look at Amsterdam:

"In Amsterdam the number of murders decreased from 32 in 2009 to 16 in 2010..."

http://www.denhaag.nl/de/to/Population-of-The-Hague-rising.htm

With a population of about 730,000, that works out to a murder rate of about 2.2/100,000. For comparison, San Jose has consistently been ranked among the safest cities over 500,000 in the US. According to city-data.com, its murder rate for 2009 was 2.6/100,000.

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Two questions:

1. Would you rather a loved one walked through Amsterdam, or through a randomly chosen American city over 500,000?

2. You never answered my question on how you justify support for federal laws based on the New Deal Commerce Clause, after claiming to have studied the Constitution. Would you do so now?

22 posted on 06/29/2011 1:52:55 AM PDT by Ken H
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