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To: muawiyah; Cicero

and even if a steel typewriter, can make identical pixel perfect characters,
it CAN’T explain multiple places on the document ITSELF have identical pixel perfect characters on boxes that were originally hand-drawn.

not to mention the many other things, like words that curve next to words that don’t curve, signatures that have DIFFERENT resolutions, etc.

CIA agents have said it’s a fake. some experts with years of experience, have signed affidavits that it’s a fake.

... i’d like to see ONE, just ONE credentialed expert sign an affidavit saying it’s not.


14 posted on 06/26/2011 1:37:49 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur
"... i’d like to see ONE, just ONE credentialed expert sign an affidavit saying it’s not."

Sandra Lines said it best in her analysis of the work done by Pollard on the COLB. Paraphrasing - to determine the authenticity of a document you need - THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT. Since neither of the actual certified copies from the state of Hawaii of the actual 'short form' COLB or the actual LFBC have been made available no credible document expert will put their name on blessing these digital creations or digital photos of reprinted documented. It is just not what forensic specialist do. They look at actual documents.

This is why many of the security features in most states have hard to copy features embedded in them that make the features hard to scan, copy etc. Most states use an embossed seal vs. the very poor de-embossed 'raised seal' Hawaii uses. Embossed seals, by design, do not scan well. I have scanned numerous embossed BCs. The embossing is barely noticeable, even at high resolution, and never do you get a clean logo - by design.

Watermarks are put onto documents to avoid scanning or copying of the watermark. Do the Hawaii documents have watermarks? No. Do they have micro-print? No. Do they have anti-copying backgrounds that clearly say 'COPY' when run through a copy machine? No (but they used to!).

Many will say that because of the lack of the actual document you can not prove fraud. This is using the same logic as confirming an actual document only in reverse. But that is not the case. Fraud can and has been proven time again. On the COLB and for the LFBC. The images are criminal fraud. Criminal by someone in the White House and likely criminal by individuals in Hawaii.

16 posted on 06/26/2011 1:59:33 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Elendur

Elunder, when you cite “experts” tell us which ones. Just saying “CIA Agent” might well mean someone like Valerie Plame ~ and what would that be worth?


37 posted on 06/26/2011 5:27:12 PM PDT by muawiyah (u)
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To: Elendur
Different resolutions in the WH version because someone mucked with it. In the AP image, they are all the same res. The words that supposedly don't curve actually do curve:

The M is on a curve (it is tilted counterclockwise). The M is a little higher than it ought to be in a curve, but remember that it was typed and the carriage shift for Caps can be uneven. The 'a' is one pixel lower than the 'e' so "Male" is indeed curved. One could argue that it is not curved enough compared to the form line below it (the form line drops several pixels while "Male" only drops one pixel).

134 posted on 06/29/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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