Posted on 06/15/2011 8:52:24 AM PDT by westcoastwillieg
What would incur if what the White Hut ‘released’ is exactly what is in HI files? THAT is why Hawaii cannot release what they have, it is just as phony as what the White Hut released, and to release such a fraud to a court is to admit they have been complicit in fraud.
I'll tell you why ... because he WIMPED OUT. Any amateur could see the document was a fake ... but Donald went for the hills and didn't follow-up on something SO OBVIOUS even an amateur could spot it. So that makes HIM a fake at worst and a Wimp at least ... a disqualification for a presidential candidate in my book.
I’d appreciate a link, or search terms to use here to read the article. I could see it as a possibility, but his bluffing paid off, and to me didn’t seem to defraud anyone - he wasn’t asking for donations, just information like people on this site had gathered.
If you request your BC, you will get a certified copy. The original is held by the state.
Yeah, IF the one on file has exactly the same information as the one that was “released” to the public,
there is absolutely NO REASON not to present the hardcopy on file.
I’m almost certain that the personal Obama lawyer went out to convince them that the weasel wording on the official stamp was enough to protect them in the event of TSHTF.
Nope, westcoastwillieg!
Fair enough, but it’s not over yet.
The certified copy should be identical thus leaving no reason to NOT show the original. We haven’t been shown the certified copy of the original long form birth certificate. THAT is the point! :)
Stop making sense, dude, it’s killing the mood.
“Why mock Trump (on this)?”
It’s my unprofessional opinion that Trump was working with the White House to produce a show (show, PR campaign, disinformation mission, wuteva) of pressure, followed by a show of the BC. As phony as one of Trump’s beauty contests, with all the fake drama.
As soon as the agreed-upon point was reached, Obama “complied” and Trump stopped. I suspect he had no “team of researchers”, it was all part of the show they were putting on.
Otherwise, Trump would have wasted his money with the “team” and would be happy with no results from that team of crack researchers.
imo.
Why don’t some of these legal geniuses, offer Taiz a hand up instead of standing back and throwing rocks?
Hint they may actually be working for the won.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate
http://snarkybytes.com/2008/06/18/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963/
Looks the same to me.
By the way, just wanted to ask, who did you that the LFBC personal data was stolen?
Like when you said "If someone steals a persons SSN or patient records and publishes them on the Internet, do they miraculously become legally free to use by someone else.....? Same with LFBC"
Of course, if the real personal data was already released to the public by Obama, there's no longer any expectation of privacy is there?
Ever since Fukino as HDOH Director made a public statement claiming what was on Obama’s birth certificate, that record is a public record. If she wasn’t allowed to disclose any information from the birth certificate then she blew it because once she’s disclosed information its source becomes a public record.
Any claim of “privileged information”/privacy concerns is total bunk because once a person publishes the information there is no longer a privacy concern. The person waived their privacy rights when they published the information.
HRS 338-18 is at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm In one place it says:
“b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
...(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction”
Any person under UIPA should be able to see Obama’s birth certificate, ever since Fukino made her July 2009 statement that Obama’s BC says he was born in Hawaii. It is a public record. All the person would have to do is sue for access under UIPA. If there was a lawful judge in Hawaii (I know, unrealistic) he/she would give an order for access to be granted, and then the HDOH would disclose the record in compliance with #9 above.
The snag is that there is no judge in Hawaii that can be trusted to grant access. Now Orly Taitz has finally gotten a judge outside Hawaii to grant access, and the HDOH is trying to ignore the subpoena.
It’s big-time CYA for the entire Hawaii government, because the whole operation has committed so many crimes to cover for Obama it’s not even funny. The State of Hawaii is a criminal operation, and they all know it. They don’t want anybody else to know it. They’ve effectively declared war against all the rest of the states.
Taitz needs to be disabarred and someday find another hobby, I’m tired of crazies dominating the headlines.
Michelle Bachmann did damn fine in the debate the other night, I’d rather we spend time talking about the real candidates who have a chance to take down Zero in 2012 than chasing tinfoil nuttery like this.
Just to clarify: “who did you” means both “who told you” and “how did you find out”?
What he released was a forgery they know that if they released the original the fraud would be uncovered.
Not only have they committed the crime of misprision but they have also altered their 1960-64 birth index so that it includes legally non-valid records in it. So they can claim that Obama MUST have a valid record, since he’s in the index (of both valid and non-valid records...)
They’ve broken the law in so many ways it would be hilarious if it wasn’t treason against the United States of America.
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