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>>So the MSM/DNC?RNc establishment has attacked Gov Palin for the last three years on anything and everything and you buying into their talking points want to use those same attacks on her at free republic and you wonder why people get upset.<<

Is there any point in responding? You have already begged the question (the proper use of that fallacy btw). You have already framed any (and all) criticism as being repeated talking points.

As with many others, you make my point for me.

>>You what to point to one criticism that was not a manufacture of those wanting to tear her apart?<<

She is polarizing. She made major mistakes during her VP run that she has been unable to compensate for. She quit her Governor position and that makes her look like a quitter. Her toying with the media, as satisfying it is to those of here at FR, looked adolescent after she made her point.

These may all have good explanations, but they are facts nonetheless. Closing your eyes to political truths accomplishes nothing.

Let me add the capper: I predict Gov. Palin will not run. How that is “a talking point” is beyond me. But I have had people write pph after pph about how I am (use bullet list in my early post) for DARING to handicap what she might do.

>>I’m willing to listen.<<

Not from what I have read on this and other threads (not from you, personally, but from the vitriol exhibited — again against the poster, not the posts — by supporters of Gov. Palin). But I look forward to your addressing my arguments and not just insulting me.

But I must add even if you personally prove me wrong about you, you can’t undo the posts already on this thread that prove the OP correct.

She is polarizing.....so conservatism is polarizing to liberals imagine that....(btw this was the very first attack made by the MSM against Palin in 2008)

Major Mistakes during the VP run? ....you mean the VP run in which she was told to do everything by the McCain campaign? or are you referring to a chopped up edited interview by CBS. You know the CBS that gave us the false Bush records......

She resigned her gov position....you mean what she did after Obama’s then Chief of Staff colluded with the left wing bloogers in his home state of AK to drive Palin into bankruptcy and they took every ability of hers away from which she could defend herself.....and then the left coined the term “quit” for what up until that point has always been referred to every politician leaving office as “resigned” a term i see you use not once but twice imagine that.....

Toying with the media? I really have no idea what you are talking about here. Please explain further. If you mean showing them up for the fools they are. It seemed to work since her negatives have dropped from 65% to 52% in the latest CNN poll......

so you bring three leftwing manufractured memes. Narratives that you have been duped into believing it seems and then you wonder why conservatives get upset with you mouthing leftwing talking points to damage a conservative candidate?

the last point you made needs more clarification from you before I can make a determination on it...

your facts are not facts. They are leftwing spin. Palin is not polarizing anymore than any conservative or for that matter liberal is. It you want a non-polarizing candidate you will need to find some moderate somewhere that has never taken a stand on any issue. the ‘mistakes” made if any during her run as VP were a matter of McCain's staff. They set up the interviews, they prepped her for those interviews, they decided who she talked with, where she went, what she wore, what she ate.

And the fact that she was forced to resign her office because of the unrelenting attacks sponsored by Obama and his chief of staff and should be a rallying point not something fellow conservatives bash her on.

As far as her running or not running. Consider this. Out of all the candidates that have played the will she or won't she game gov Palin is the only one that has the vast majority of people undecided on what she will do. All other were seen early for what their decision would be. not something a stupid person could pull off. Those that have watched her since Nov 2008 know that she has done everything needed to prepare for a campaign. just like all the other candidates. to not give her the same respect for that effort as others are given. (i.E lean towards running until they say they are not) is just classless.

She is polarizing.

Please elaborate. Explain why she is 'polarizing'.

She quit her Governor position and that makes her look like a quitter. Her toying with the media, as satisfying it is to those of here at FR, looked adolescent after she made her point. These may all have good explanations, but they are facts nonetheless. Closing your eyes to political truths accomplishes nothing.

Those aren't facts, their your opinions, shared by the Left Wing and those in the GOP ELite circled.