Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii

naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ^ | 06/09/2011 | Leo Donofrio

[Fred Nerks]

That resemblance is a matter of opinion, I can't see it. Lots of people have a big chin, doesn't mean they are related, does it?

[Fred Nerks]

Before?

http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html

A Sunday Nation team that set out to trace Obama’s roots was surprised to find that, unknown to many, Obama has actually been to this village twice. First in 1983, when he had come to mourn his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, who had died in Nairobi in 1982...

[STARWISE]

It can also be said that, when one isn't expecting to be dealing with liars and villainous cretins of the highest order in connection to the office of the presidency, one doesn't immediately deduce or even suspect ALL the possible deceitful acts and distortions/sealing of pertinent facts of which they're capable.

Someone's expecting law abiding, decent, normal folks to immediately have switched type and become clarevoyant and fathomed the behavior variables and tactics of lowdown, conniving thugs and despots.

We've sure been taught and have learned how they operate now.

White House mantle, words of John Adams

[Natufian]

“I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it: the only way we will ever know what really happened with Obama is by looking at the embedded computer transaction logs to see what records, if any, are genuine and which have been either manipulated or outright manufactured. IIRC, some of Donofrio’s own researchers were involved in trying to figure out how we could access those embedded transaction logs. I wonder what they found out.”

As far as I’m aware and from having spent 25 years in IT, anyone who has enough control over a system, has enough knowledge of that system and enough time could make even the transaction logs say whatever they want them to say.

[Fred Nerks]

...I seem to remember having posted (with source) that Malik was doing business in Wash, DC back as far as the 80’s.

I have a vague recollection of that also...something about Malik being a 'consultant'...now there's a word that can mean anything you want it mean...Malik also operates an electrical store in the village.

[Beckwith]

You can’t fool Mother Nature!

[Beckwith]

Sharon Rondeau. She explicitly states that she found marriage records for the Obama lovebirds in the expected locations in public records.

You wouldn't have a link, would you?

[Beckwith]

I just looked.

Children and young people under 18

Children and young people under the age of 16 must have their own child passport if they want to travel abroad (unless they are on a collective passport). An application for a passport for a child or young person under 16 must be signed by a parent or someone with parental responsibility.

A passport for a child under 16 is valid for five years. A young person aged 16 or over can use a child passport until it expires.

Applicants under age 16 receive a 5-year passport. Applicants age 16 or older receive a 10-year passport.

http://estonia.usembassy.gov/renewing5.html

If Stanley Ann re-upped her passport in 1965, then she had an American passport issued to her in 1960.

Now the question becomes, where did Stanley Ann go, or plan to go, in 1960?

The other question is, where did those records go?

[Beckwith]

If all there is is a digital index, there was no state-sanctioned marriage. IMO those low-level query listings aren't evidence of anything.

I like the notion that Stanley formalized the divorce to provide provenance for Barry.

[Beckwith]

Zero’s first trip to Kenya was in 1983, according to Kenya sources.

Not being argumentative, but the reports I've seen indicate 1986.

[Fred Nerks]

“I like the notion that Stanley formalized the divorce to provide provenance for Barry.”

Welcome Aboard!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2732437/posts?page=33#33

[Beckwith]

There you go bgill.

Hawaii is up to it's eyeballs in fraud.

The whole Obama/Dunham story is horsehockey.

No marriage certificate — no birth certificate. That's two generations of missing core documentation.

[Beckwith]

The general concensus is the Canadian name change is bunk.

The entire Obama mythology is bunk.

[Beckwith]

Beware the fraud - a con man will say anything.

Are you referring to Malik or Barack (chuckle)?

[Beckwith]

I’m not questioning the 1983 date, but where would Barack Obama get the money to travel to Africa.

He would have to have gone right after graduation in June, 1983? He had no money.

[Fred Nerks]

COMMENT LINK

Now take a good look at the above, and try to convince me that sentence wasn't ADDED. The extra information was totally unrelated to the the request for an extension, which could have been granted UP TO THE WORD KENYA.

That Memo is dated 31st August 1961. Same date as the application for an extension - on which the name of his 'wife' is crossed out and replaced with Ann S Dunham, BUT NO CHILD.

[Beckwith]

As far as I’m aware and from having spent 25 years in IT, anyone who has enough control over a system, has enough knowledge of that system and enough time could make even the transaction logs say whatever they want them to say.

Natufian is 100% correct.

In my past life I was something called an Enterprise Data Architect. I did BIG data architectures (NASA Space Station Program, etc).

I can produce anything from any database or data warehouse as a simple listing, and I can defeat all of the system and database logging.

The only trusted documentation is the original, source documentation -- and Obama has NONE!

What has he given the American People?

A book full of demonstable lies, two bogus birth documents and two suspicious microfiche copies of newspaper birth announcements.

The SOB HAS NO NORMAL AND USUAL LIFE DOCUMENTS!

[Beckwith]

Good evening!

[Fred Nerks]

Good evening to you too...can’t sleep?

[Beckwith]

I’m off to work . . . later . . .